AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D: Windows 11 vs. Ubuntu 23.04 Linux Performance

[GreatLord]

It is nice see linux distro ubuntu is faster that windows 11.

I dislike and like windows.
1. Windows NT kernel is nice and fast as Linux kernel
I dislike how the graphis kernel part have been design win32k.sys ( not part of NT kernel) it is a driver for the graphice interface it contain GDI, Printer, DirectX ( Windows 2000) higher version it is own driver that win32k.sys loading.

Next issue I see with windows it is the user mode, it contain to many old layer on layer of api for varius thing that MS have not remove.
And that make the user interface slower response time. The GDI handler are need it for DirectX, Printer, OpenGL and Windows can have max 65536 graphices object same time. When the GUI get slow WIndows 11 and down have run out of GDI handler. solv is to close some program or windows and hope it free some GDI Handlers

Windows 11/10/ ... Update issue
Correct update after full install
1. Run windows update and wait until all update been install
2. Reboot
3. Check windows update for update again, new updates will show so repate 1 until no update show.
4. Check manufactor for the gpu if they got any driver update at manufactor website AMD/Nvidia
5. Check manufactor for chip driver update Intel/AMD website
so on.

I have move from Windows to Fedora but I need one laptop with Windows and nvidia graphice card for some software I need.
But I manger do almost everthing I need in Fedora

It is few thing I dislike with Linux Fedora as well.
Linux kernel does not have all driver for docking station with display link and the offical driver for display link is spaming with allot msg it does not support DMA buffer from wayland.

Bios update for my Laptop is need windows todo it.

ubunto Does ship with display link driver but i dislike ubunto thanks to snap

printer driver papper cut does not work correct, Note the offical papercut driver does not either work corectly in windows 10/11 it need be intel gen 11/12 or AMD zen with windows 10/11 pro so it is not only linux issue with papercut.

[avis]

So, Ubuntu is 6% faster yet the Microsoft Windows OS has 30+ years of tens of thousands of applications and games it can run flawlessly.

Sorry to break it to people like Volta who just cannot stop insulting people but compatibility and stability mean a million times more than performance which is higher in single digits. People don't run benchmarks all day long, but they surely want to get shit done.

Windows updates are relatively slow, true, but Linux updates often render some of your HW and software broken. Guess what people will choose again.

When you start looking closer it turns out Linux is a nice idea and that's it. The implementation is crap aside from RHEL which barely anyone runs as a desktop OS.

Have a nice day showing off benches results. Who the f cares?

And most if not all stories told here about the broken Windows Update service are a lie. I've not had a single issue with Windows Updates since W7.

[Paradigm Shifter]

Whether a system boots fast or slow is very, very hardware dependent... not so much the OS. I've got various bits of kit and am responsible for others, where button-to-login time can range from ~8 seconds (Asus B550/Ryzen 5900X mini-ITX desktop system, Win 11) to ~20 seconds (Gigabyte B550/Ryzen 5700G microATX desktop system, Win 11 but wiped it for Arch and the boot time is basically the same) to 385 seconds (AMD Epyc server, where 380 seconds of that is the pre-POST AGESA and POST routines)... Intel boxes behave similarly; it's very dependent on motherboard.

I think Windows 11 feels slow to me because it does so much talking to servers for basic tasks. Searching the Start Menu? Slow and not very accurate, with lots of completely irrelevant Bing results offered. Windows 7 didn't feel slow searching in the Start Menu. People praise VSCode, but it's very sluggish in my opinion. The more telemetry something has, the slower it gets, at least IMO. Searching in the Cinnamon Menu? As smooth as Windows 7.

Microsoft should release a stripped down version of Windows without all of this junk - although of course they won't, because the telemetry is what they are now after: you are now the product, not the consumer, after all - they could double the price and label it the "gamer edition" and I'm sure people would buy it.

[HEL88]

Apparently you have no clue about Linux.

Apparently yes. Your linux colleague wrote:

, how fast it boots up (and is actually useable). On my linux box it takes exactly 8 seconds from cold boot (with bios boot time)

I don't know why boot time is so important to you. So I suppose you have to boot the system frequently - seems obvious.

You are suggesting that you are abnormal and have such a fetish?? This needs to be treated.

[Paradigm Shifter]

I don't know why boot time is so important to you. So I suppose you have to boot the system frequently - seems obvious.

You are suggesting that you are abnormal and have such a fetish?? This needs to be treated.

Well, it's important to me because I don't put my computers to sleep - whether Windows or Linux. My Linux systems spend most of their lives at 100% or very close to it (except two; one which runs firewall duty, and one which acts as a NAS) while my Windows boxes I don't want running unless I'm actively using them.

Even in Windows, sleep can be buggy - I've avoided using sleep ever since my laptop at the time decided to wake up randomly in my backpack and attempt to cook itself to death, although before and since then I've had laptops wake from sleep with USB not working or similar issues. For portable devices sleep might seem useful, but aside from the above mentioned issues, for the truly paranoid it is a potential security risk as data will still be contained in volatile memory.

[Anux]

I guess this is important on Linux, because apparently Linux crashes all the time and you have to restart, and system sleep doesn't work for you.

Windows reboots every few weeks. And normally you use sleep.

Ah yes just a random troll, should have seen it from the start. Have your fun, I will concentrate my time on adults.

So, Ubuntu is 6% faster yet Windows have 30+ years of tens of thousands of applications and games it can run flawlessly.

I'm not sure how you define flawless but it shouldn't have any flaws to fall under that category.

Windows updates are relatively slow, true, but Linux updates often render some of your HW and software broken.

That is total bullshit and if you would know anything about Windows you would know that there were many system breaking updates just in the last few years.

And most if not all stories told here about the broken Windows Update service are a lie. I've not had a single issue with Windows Updates since W7.

Yeah there is probably a big conspiracy with all those people posting Win update error messages in the web just to make your perfect Windows look bad. Don't you see that it's embarrassing to post such lies?

[Smurphy]

To be very honest - it is not only the speed of execution that comes to mind for me.
The simple most practical 2 things I missed under any windows were:
1. middle paste mouse button. What a bliss...
2. Network based UI (X-Server - ssh into remote system with and start application. It shows up on your screen). And this, I did back in 1996!

I admit that my brother and I had our arguments. He stated that his Windows system was tuned to boot up very fast.
I just countered that even though my linux took 20seconds more to boot, it wouldn't crash and I could continue working while upgrading packages

Yeah - well - as linux fan since 1992 (and some code fixes by me provided to various subsystem and distributions), I wouldn't want to miss the freedom to do the things your way.

The one thing that disturbs me most in nowadays commercial systems - are the "forced" commercials you need to submit all the time. Hate it. Can't stand it.

[Quppa]

Michael In case you didn't see it, watch out when testing different 7000X3D CPUs on the same Windows installation - Gamers Nexus found that the core parking settings don't get cleared unless you do a fresh install.

[Michael]

Michael In case you didn't see it, watch out when testing different 7000X3D CPUs on the same Windows installation - Gamers Nexus found that the core parking settings don't get cleared unless you do a fresh install.

AMD announced that back during the reviewer briefing... But I only tested the 7800X3D on Windows anyways. I always do fresh installs.

[LightBit]

Hmm, 7%.

Linux fans claim that Windows is so slow that it is impossible to work on it.

They claim that on Windows all operations take several times longer and Windows takes all resources and for programs nothing is left.

And it turns out that in the right 28% of the programs Windows is even faster

I think Windows slowness claims mostly come from specific Windows tasks, like installing and updating. In the past Windows usually utilized hardware better than Linux. The problem is mostly in bloatware (like Defender). Benchmarks don't show everything (for example they don't show responsiveness or how long update takes to install).
Linux works much better on weak and old computers. Today with SSD disks I don't notice Windows being slow on modern PC, but I use also many old PCs that are totally useless with Windows.