AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D: Windows 11 vs. Ubuntu 23.04 Linux Performance

[Yalok]

Hmm, 7%.

Linux fans claim that Windows is so slow that it is impossible to work on it.

They claim that on Windows all operations take several times longer and Windows takes all resources and for programs nothing is left.

And it turns out that in the right 28% of the programs Windows is even faster

Linux fans don't claim that, you do.

[HEL88]

..... it's nearly 50%.

As linux fanboy, for you is most important "Opus Codec Encoding Benchamark" because you all day encoding Wave to Opus.

LOL

[HEL88]

Linux fans don't claim that, you do.

On almost every computer forum there are a handful of Linux fanboys who non-stop write how Windows is bad and how it's slow, how M$ steals everything from Linux and how Windows users are stupid.

[HEL88]

It's about how fast the system responds to user interactions, how fast it boots up (and is actually useable). On my linux box it takes exactly 8 seconds from cold boot (with bios boot time)

I guess this is important on Linux, because apparently Linux crashes all the time and you have to restart, and system sleep doesn't work for you.

Windows reboots every few weeks. And normally you use sleep.

[Vistaus]

Hmm, 7%.

Linux fans claim that Windows is so slow that it is impossible to work on it.

They claim that on Windows all operations take several times longer and Windows takes all resources and for programs nothing is left.

And it turns out that in the right 28% of the programs Windows is even faster

Not in all tests and on all distros. Also, there's a difference between automated tests and real-world usage.

[Vistaus]

Is it? Would an esoteric distro like Intel's Clear Linux, that hardly anyone uses, be more representative?

No, but there are other widely used distros like Fedora, openSUSE, etc. and they all have better performance too.

[HEL88]

Not in all tests and on all distros.

I know. Every Linux fan uses Clear Linux.

[Yalok]

On almost every computer forum there are a handful of Linux fanboys who non-stop write how Windows is bad and how it's slow, how M$ steals everything from Linux and how Windows users are stupid.

I haven't noticed those, although they probably do exist, as there are fanboys of almost anything.
Do you feel offended by their opinion?

[Yalok]

No, but there are other widely used distros like Fedora, openSUSE, etc. and they all have better performance too.

I wouldn't call openSUSE a widely used one these days and fedora hardly offers a noticeably better performance on hardware that people use as workstations: https://www.phoronix.com/review/hp-devone-linux/8
50.56 vs 50.50 geometric mean points.

[Volta]

The problem with windows is not that it can't run programs quickly. Of course it can. NT kernel is performant and mature and just like Linux it used to run quickly on a 486.
And it's not that Microsoft developers are not talented ones.

No, it can't and its far from performant. Furthermore, M$ developers are one of the worst:

http://blog.zorinaq.com/i-contribute-to-the-windows-kernel-we-are-slower-than-other-oper/

Windows is indeed slower than other operating systems in many scenarios, and the gap is worsening. The cause of the problem is social. There's almost none of the improvement for its own sake, for the sake of glory, that you see in the Linux world.

Another reason for the quality gap is that that we've been having trouble keeping talented people. Google and other large Seattle-area companies keep poaching our best, most experienced developers, and we hire youths straight from college to replace them. You find SDEs and SDE IIs maintaining hugely import systems. These developers mean well and are usually adequately intelligent, but they don't understand why certain decisions were made, don't have a thorough understanding of the intricate details of how their systems work, and most importantly, don't want to change anything that already works.

More examples:

• We can't touch named pipes. Let's add %INTERNAL_NOTIFICATION_SYSTEM%! And let's make it inconsistent with virtually every other named NT primitive.
• We can't expose %INTERNAL_NOTIFICATION_SYSTEM% to the rest of the world because we don't want to fill out paperwork and we're not losing sales because we only have 1990s-era Win32 APIs available publicly.
• We can't touch DCOM. So we create another %C#_REMOTING_FLAVOR_OF_THE_WEEK%!
• XNA. Need I say more?
• Why would anyone need an archive format that supports files larger than 2GB?
• Let's support symbolic links, but make sure that nobody can use them so we don't get blamed for security vulnerabilities (Great! Now we get to look sage and responsible!)
• We can't touch Source Depot, so let's hack together SDX!
• We can't touch SDX, so let's pretend for four releases that we're moving to TFS while not actually changing anything!
• Oh god, the NTFS code is a purple opium-fueled Victorian horror novel that uses global recursive locks and SEH for flow control. Let's write ReFs instead. (And hey, let's start by copying and pasting the NTFS source code and removing half the features! Then let's add checksums, because checksums are cool, right, and now with checksums we're just as good as ZFS? Right? And who needs quotas anyway?)
• We just can't be fucked to implement C11 support, and variadic templates were just too hard to implement in a year. (But ohmygosh we turned "^" into a reference-counted pointer operator. Oh, and what's a reference cycle?)

The part about Linux memory over commitment in above link proves the windows dev had not much clue about Linux.