AMD Ryzen 5 7600 / Ryzen 7 7700 / Ryzen 9 7900 Linux Performance

[joshx1]

I'm super keen for the 7950X3d, given what looks like a much lower TDP, at the cost of clock speed. Means hopefully by the next generation they've figured their shit out.

[Slartifartblast]

Super power efficient chips and I've been sweating my Xeon 1230 v3 asset until this 5nm moment, the wallet is finally getting pulled out.

[Anux]

Or just the i5-13600K?
As far as I know, Raptor Lake doesn't have a 'Microsoft Pluton security processor'.

Pluton is essentially TPM/SecBoot integrated in the CPU and all Intels have it since ? (a few gens atleast). The only new relevant feature that was optional and external/software based before is remote attestation.

I also don't understand why there is so little fuss about this by Linux users.

Those that are interested in privacy and don't trust big companys and governements already complaint in the early days when MS, AMD and Intel called it TCPA. Nearly no one was interested/listened back than. We just don't understand why some find those earlier implementations totally fine but complain about pluton which is essentially TPM 2.1

Are you aware why Microsoft wants this in a CPU and how that could evolve in the future?

Probably the same reasons as before with TCPA and later TCG?

I don't hear Linux users complain much about security issues these days, and have never heard them ask to have Pluton in their CPU.

Maybe you're not listening?

I don't understand how so many Islamic countries that have very little moral connection with a country like the USA continue to be abused by Microsoft.

Probably the right person at the right position either doesn't care or profits off it.

[Slartifartblast]

Pluton is essentially TPM/SecBoot integrated

Pluton was specifically designed as DRM/anti-piracy solution for the Xbox.

Go figure.

[Anux]

Pluton was specifically designed as DRM/anti-piracy solution for the Xbox.

Not only xbox, azure also.

Go figure.

Not sure what you want me to figure out there?

[Slartifartblast]

Not only xbox, azure also.

Not sure what you want me to figure out there?

Xbox first, Azure an afterthought......

https://www.itpro.co.uk/security/357795/what-is-the-microsoft-pluton-security-processor

[Anux]

Xbox first, Azure an afterthought......

https://www.itpro.co.uk/security/357...rity-processor

Everything is inside the CPU so you "shouldn't" be able to do mitm attacks. We knew that already. I still don't get it, could you be a little less vague?

[bug77]

12600k is a dead platform and draw lot more power, 7600 get close enough and uses lot less power and AM5 still have few generations ahead.

So pick your poison, the 7600 is fine as it is and will prolly go down in price in the near future

Not sure about dead platform, you can still swap an 13600k (or better) in.
The 7600 is fine. It's just that it comes into a competitive world (yay!) and all it brings to the table is lower TDP (the same performance has been available for over a year now and roughly at the same price point). And you have to swap your mobo and RAM to get that.

[jrch2k8]

Not sure about dead platform, you can still swap an 13600k (or better) in.
The 7600 is fine. It's just that it comes into a competitive world (yay!) and all it brings to the table is lower TDP (the same performance has been available for over a year now and roughly at the same price point). And you have to swap your mobo and RAM to get that.

i mean dead by the fact the next gen of intel is extremely likely require a new mobo meanwhile AM5 will last for a decent time after 7000 series, so imho AM5 will be cheaper in the long run, that is all.

Well, i prefer lower power consumption over few % of performance but i give you this is very relative since the reverse can be true as well for people who don't give a damn about power and temps as long as is faster.

so, is nice we have options now for both spectrums

[Drago]

i mean dead by the fact the next gen of intel is extremely likely require a new mobo meanwhile AM5 will last for a decent time after 7000 series, so imho AM5 will be cheaper in the long run, that is all.

Well, i prefer lower power consumption over few % of performance but i give you this is very relative since the reverse can be true as well for people who don't give a damn about power and temps as long as is faster.

so, is nice we have options now for both spectrums

If you care about power, then you should get Intel 13600 or something. It was bench marked to use much less power on idle(which is what your PC does 95% of the time) than AMD, albeit the insane turbo power. Some dude benchmarked it, and it turned out 13600 saved $10 per year.