AMD Ryzen 5 7600 / Ryzen 7 7700 / Ryzen 9 7900 Linux Performance

[r1348]

Are you sure? The article states: "These non-X series CPUs do support overclocking."

Edit: oh, I somehow read "no overclocking", sorry.

But now I see the picture from AMD, you can at least enable PBO which removes the standard power limits. That still wouldn't allow undervolting or tuning freq/voltage manually?

They allow the same range of overclocking options of the X CPUs, including undervolt and manual set of power limits. Of course, the non-X CPUs are likely lower binned X CPus, so they might not be able to go up in frequencies as much.

[Mahboi]

Any info about temperatures? I really like the lower power draws, but am wondering if this also means a much lower temperature?

What do you think creates temperature in a chip?
Of course the temperatures are a lot better. Heck, they're sold with those cheap AMD Wraith/Stealth coolers that are bargain bin/10$ tier, and they don't fry.

[JellyBrain]

Any info about temperatures? I really like the lower power draws, but am wondering if this also means a much lower temperature?

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[otoomet]

I like the fact that the power consumption is pretty predictably--up to 92W. So I'd like to call these chips not 65W chips but 90W chips, but I guess I can live with the fact that the actual power consumption is 1.4x more than the stated TDP. Excited to see intel non-k benchmarks!

[Linuxxx]

Michael

Where's the link to the OpenBenchmarking.org result file?

I'm asking because I wanted to see whether you had run the "Strange Brigade" benchmark here aswell.

But even if you didn't, I can confirm now that Intel's hybrid architecture wasn't at fault this time; rather, your PTS profile on Windows must be broken somehow.

Here, take a look at the results of Guru3D for the RTX 3090 with DX12, which has about the same performance as the Vulkan renderer in this game:

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-rtx-3090-founder-review,19.html

As you can see, 1440p at ultra settings gets ~250 FPS on Guru3D, whereas your recent testing claims ~370 FPS on Windows, while Linux is at ~290 FPS, which is much more realistic.

Another data point can be found on OpenBenchmarking.org, where an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X + RTX 3090 was benchmarked on Ubuntu 22.10:

https://openbenchmarking.org/result/2211205-PTS-UPPY644479#r-b42c053757938e1d56d4fc8ff547c116060c10fa

Here, the result of ~220 FPS proves once more that Intel's P/E-cores can't be blamed for this particular benchmark.

In conclusion, it would be great if you could take a second look at what exactly is wrong with the PTS profile of "Strange Brigade" on Windows...

Thanks for your work & time!

[Classical]

They score well for web browsing and gaming, which are the things I care about the most.

The only downside, perhaps, is that Pluton can be integrated.
Does anyone know if these CPUs use the Microsoft Pluton security processor?

To be clear, I don't see it as an advantage if they use Microsoft Pluton. I don't want this in the CPU.

[Keats]

I like the fact that the power consumption is pretty predictably--up to 92W. So I'd like to call these chips not 65W chips but 90W chips, but I guess I can live with the fact that the actual power consumption is 1.4x more than the stated TDP. Excited to see intel non-k benchmarks!

Yeah, AMD's TDP is a joke only tangentially related to power consumption. Not as bad as Intel, but still.

[Anux]

To be clear, I don't see it as an advantage if they use Microsoft Pluton. I don't want this in the CPU.

Than you have to choose between a MIPS or a RISC-V chip I guess. Or stay on old x86 forever.

Yeah, AMD's TDP is a joke only tangentially related to power consumption. Not as bad as Intel, but still.

Maybe that's the reason it's called thermal design power and not average power consumption?

[NateHubbard]

the 7600 is fine as it is and will prolly go down in price

Prolly? Do you actually say it that way?

[Classical]

Than you have to choose between a MIPS or a RISC-V chip I guess. Or stay on old x86 forever.

Or just the i5-13600K?
As far as I know, Raptor Lake doesn't have a 'Microsoft Pluton security processor'.

I also don't understand why there is so little fuss about this by Linux users.
Are you aware why Microsoft wants this in a CPU and how that could evolve in the future?

Or do you think that Microsoft, the company with the worst security for years, designed Pluton for security purposes, developed specifically for Ubuntu/Fedora/Arch users?

That has always been a very remarkable company 'Microsoft', I do not understand how people continue to tolerate this further escalating abuse of privacy.

It has struck me for years that the worst criminals can be found at Microsoft. In no other place.

I don't hear Linux users complain much about security issues these days, and have never heard them ask to have Pluton in their CPU.

What I also do not understand is that countries such as Iran continue to use Microsoft, after Microsoft has developed zero days to obtain sensitive information about 'its own customers'. I don't understand how so many Islamic countries that have very little moral connection with a country like the USA continue to be abused by Microsoft.

I also don't understand why Microsoft remains so popular in Africa. The people are already so poor there, I don't understand how they don't give all this money to food instead of a product that is worse than all the free options. But this mainly has to do with bribery and corruption.