AMD, Google, Microsoft & NVIDIA Announce "Caliptra" Open-Source Root of Trust

[sdack]

May I ask a question that where can I find the Caliptra code? Looking forward to your reply, THANKS A LOT!

Read the document mentioned in the article.

[linuxgeex]

No, I think you're just a liar.

I shouldn't have to point this out to you, but slinging slurs vs debating things on merit speaks to your character, not mine.

I'll forgive you because you don't know me, and because I encourage everyone to use their own judgement. So you can disagree with me. But ad-hominem is not appreciated.

But sometimes, I admit that I do enjoy sitting back with popcorn when two trolls have at it. And I'm sure I'm not alone lol.

[deusexmachina]

I'm one of the most sceptical people you'll ever meet.

No, I think you're just a liar. Unless you live in a bubble you can't be one of the most skeptical people and then go on in the same paragraph to make a bunch of pro-GMO arguments. You even think you're making a neutral argument because you don't realize the difference between breeding and GMOs. Real critics realize at least the many arguments critics have against this fraudulent technology they're calling GMO. I'm not getting into it because there are basically unlimited anti-GMO books at this point you can easily look up... But shills come out of the wood work anytime big companies get together to undermine root-of-trust and how ironic that you bring up other topics which are professionally shilled for (which are totally unrelated like GMO) in the same thread! Maybe they end up hiring the same shills across topics, who knows... What I do know from your comments is it is very unlikely that even you think you're the most skeptical people we'd ever meet - at minimum that's a white lie.

[carpe1999]

I could not care less whether Microsoft or Google are on board, but both Intel and Arm seem to be missing. Also curious is that although Nvidia is being mentioned here did Nvidia in fact not contribute to the specification and only AMD, Microsoft and Google are being listed on the document and its revision history.

May I ask a question that where can I find the Caliptra code? Looking forward to your reply, THANKS A LOT!

[carpe1999]

May someone could tell me where can i find the Caliptra open source? THANK A LOT!!!

[castlefox]

The user and not the hardware vendor should be able to decide which code runs on their devices. I especially won't trust Google here, which supports denying access to applications for users with rooted Android devices (Google SafetyNet a.k.a corporate Digital Restrictions Management).

IMHO YES, The user should be empowered by the hardware vendor(s) to make decisions on what code is running.
If I want some code to run, my hardware vendors NEED to facilitate the code running more efficiently, more securely, easier to apply updates without things breaking. I NEED to trust the hardware vendor so that when they give me update software I trust that I will not breaking something on my system.

I do not care if I am asking for something unreasonable. This is what I want. What hardware vendors are going to give me this?

[sdack]

It's about time Analog TRNG was added as standard. How did we go this many decades without that being on every desktop?

Hardware RNGs were dropped in favour of software RNGs. The Pentium III already had a hardware random number generator based oscillators. Software RNGs can produce more results than there are atoms in the universe. It is now about finding enough entropy for seeding a software RNG, or, to combine hardware and software RNG for creating the best result.

[Danielsan]

Every time you read these announces it ends up always that installing any *nix OS becomes harder and problematic.

[linuxgeex]

linuxgeex Most people see the backing and thinking "yeah, because I can trust these ones for anything else right?" and they are right in their skeptical attitude.

Thanks, and you're preaching to the choir. I'm one of the most sceptical people you'll ever meet. I believe everyone should trust their own judgement, and they can't exercise judgement without looking at all sides. So I'll provide contrasting views even if those views are not my own. It drives my partner nuts because when others praise her, she knows that leads me to consider her flaws. OTOH when others are criticising her, she knows I'm considering her virtues. When she brings me a brilliant plan, I offer ways it can fall apart. When she frets how things may fall apart, I offer ways to keep it together.

There's an old Jewish proverb: if 9 out of 10 people believe something, it is probably right. If 10 out of 10 believe it, it's questionable. Why? Because if everyone believes it, nobody questions it, and if nobody questions things, apocrypha will abound.

Some apocrypha is seriously harmful. For example, the idea that GMOs are harmful. Monsanto made mistakes at the dawn of genetic manipulation, and their lack of ethics together with poor choices by commercial farmers led to huge amounts of bad press for Monsanto and GMOs. The press, fearful stakeholders, and Luddites, have fuelled a lot of FUD around GMOs. For the most part their arguments ignore the fact that we've been making GMOs via selective breeding for millennia, and that's nearly everything we eat today. To ignore the past is to repeat the past. Generations after Monsanto's mistakes Humanity has made a lot of progress. We learn from our mistakes, and we do better. There's people doing the real, hard, research work to become knowledgeable on the subject. They're the ones who have earned our attention. Fear not - listen to the shills on both sides, weigh the benefits and risks, and use your own judgement.

Personally, I think the whole GMO issue is oversold and the real problem nearly nobody is talking about is monoculture. Ironically Ireland, famous for the Potato Famine, has sweeping fear-driven anti-GMO legislation, but no anti-monoculture legislation. Yet it was monoculture that caused the potato famine. Monoculture is the reason for heavy global pesticide use. Heavy global pesticide use is the cause of the health problems that most of the well-educated people campaigning against GMOs are trying to avoid and where do you think the funding for the misdirect is coming from? Who benefits? Monsanto - the people selling the monoculture and pesticides.

[binarybanana]

Glad to see all this healthy sceptimism. Seems like we have not quite lost yet.