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  • arQon
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    Originally posted by middy View Post
    cool. a thread about the 7700x performance gets turned into a russia vs the west argument fest thread.
    If you think there's even an argument to be made, you're part of the problem.

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  • Weasel
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    Originally posted by Brisse View Post
    https://sell.amazon.com/global-selli...studies/eu-vat

    Retard.

    2. VAT is included in the sale price. Unlike in the US, where sales tax is added to the list price, VAT is included in the list price in the EU. Let’s say that you sell a product on Amazon.com for $100. To sell it for the equivalent price in the UK, you would list it on Amazon.co.uk for $120 (assuming 20% VAT). This is important to remember when analyzing competitive pricing on Amazon’s European marketplaces.​

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  • Keats
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    Originally posted by Brisse View Post
    The difference is that in EU the tax is added to the list price, which is not the case in the US.

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  • geearf
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    Originally posted by jaxa View Post

    AMD is expected to increase core counts with Zen 5 "Granite Ridge" desktop CPUs.

    The current lineup is a consequence of sticking with the 8-core chiplet. Yields have been high the entire time, so they don't need to disable too many cores. They don't want to make quad-cores with 1 chiplet or 10-cores with 2 chiplets, although they have done both by now (the 3300X and 5900E).

    They can increase the cores per chiplet. There might be technical reasons for not putting more than 8 cores in a single CCX. 10-12 would lead to higher core counts immediately but there could be latency issues or other problems. They could go back to having multiple CCXs (Zen 2 chiplets used two 4-core CCXs), which seems to be the case with Zen 4C. Zen 4C has 16 cores, presumably in two CCXs. I don't think they will regress to 4-6 cores per CCX (other than reusing Zen 2) because it could hurt the performance of games that use 8 cores.

    They can increase the number of chiplets. AMD loves to sell consumers just a single core chiplet, so you get a 6-core as the "budget" option. Competition from Intel will force them to do more.

    They can mix chiplets. One of the rumors for Zen 5 desktop suggests an 8-core Zen 5 chiplet would be paired with a 16-core Zen 4C chiplet. The Zen 4C chiplet can be on a cheaper node than the Zen 5 chiplet. Maybe they continue to sell 6-8 cores, but make them cheaper Ryzen 3s, and then jump to 18 cores with a 6+12 config. And then 24 or 32 total cores at the top depending on the number of chiplets. You can come up with some weird core counts this way, and how 3D cache would factor in is beyond me.
    Oh I never realized 8 cores was with a single CCX now, I have a Zen 2 with 2. It makes sense that you think they won't go under 8 per CCX now (outside of disabled core for lower entry).

    Thanks for the explanation!

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  • L_A_G
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    Originally posted by Weasel View Post
    ...
    I, and everyone who pays attention to this stuff, know full well that the reason for this was that U.S prices don't include VAT or sales tax. That's due to it varying wildly not just across the U.S because it's set and collected on a county level (so not even state) and hence you can have something like 15% in one place, jump in a car, drive 30 minutes and buy the same damn thing with no sales tax without even crossing a state line.

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  • Brisse
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    Originally posted by Weasel View Post
    Prices in EUR were always more expensive than the US one (just check amazon.com prices vs amazon.de), even if you don't account for conversion, because EU has this thing called VAT on every product, which is quite insanely high as well.

    (480/399 = +20% more, and VAT (tax) is around there, with EUR around same price as USD now, what a coincidence right?)

    Garbage in, garbage out. People complain of corruption in the US government but they have no idea how garbage the rest of the world is.
    Fuck off you ignorant troll.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_..._United_States

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  • Weasel
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    Originally posted by L_A_G View Post
    Worth pointing out that in Europe AMD has abandoned the usual 1USD-1EUR conversion in MSRP and that the European MSRP on the 7700X is 480€. Clearly for the understandable reason of the euro taking a big hit due to Russia's energy war in response to sanctions and aid to Ukraine, but still quite annoying for someone like me who plans to buy one and who also happens to be something of a miser.
    Prices in EUR were always more expensive than the US one (just check amazon.com prices vs amazon.de), even if you don't account for conversion, because EU has this thing called VAT on every product, which is quite insanely high as well.

    (480/399 = +20% more, and VAT (tax) is around there, with EUR around same price as USD now, what a coincidence right?)

    Garbage in, garbage out. People complain of corruption in the US government but they have no idea how garbage the rest of the world is.
    Last edited by Weasel; 30 September 2022, 08:19 AM.

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  • jaxa
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    Originally posted by geearf View Post
    When is AMD going to add more cores? I think the 700X always had 8 cores. Isn't it time to switch to 10/12?
    AMD is expected to increase core counts with Zen 5 "Granite Ridge" desktop CPUs.

    The current lineup is a consequence of sticking with the 8-core chiplet. Yields have been high the entire time, so they don't need to disable too many cores. They don't want to make quad-cores with 1 chiplet or 10-cores with 2 chiplets, although they have done both by now (the 3300X and 5900E).

    They can increase the cores per chiplet. There might be technical reasons for not putting more than 8 cores in a single CCX. 10-12 would lead to higher core counts immediately but there could be latency issues or other problems. They could go back to having multiple CCXs (Zen 2 chiplets used two 4-core CCXs), which seems to be the case with Zen 4C. Zen 4C has 16 cores, presumably in two CCXs. I don't think they will regress to 4-6 cores per CCX (other than reusing Zen 2) because it could hurt the performance of games that use 8 cores.

    They can increase the number of chiplets. AMD loves to sell consumers just a single core chiplet, so you get a 6-core as the "budget" option. Competition from Intel will force them to do more.

    They can mix chiplets. One of the rumors for Zen 5 desktop suggests an 8-core Zen 5 chiplet would be paired with a 16-core Zen 4C chiplet. The Zen 4C chiplet can be on a cheaper node than the Zen 5 chiplet. Maybe they continue to sell 6-8 cores, but make them cheaper Ryzen 3s, and then jump to 18 cores with a 6+12 config. And then 24 or 32 total cores at the top depending on the number of chiplets. You can come up with some weird core counts this way, and how 3D cache would factor in is beyond me.
    Last edited by jaxa; 30 September 2022, 05:15 AM.

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  • theriddick
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    I'm hearing Intel is doing allot better with their 13th gen, but with TDP's up to 250W

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  • qarium
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    in germany the 12900k is at 629€ and the price for the 7700x is at 466€

    https://geizhals.de/?cmp=2801229&cmp=2622166&active=1

    my interpretation is this: AMD force intel to lower the 629€ price to something like 480€...

    thats a 149€ win for the customers.

    go go go AMD... its nice to see that AMD force intel to lower prices.

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