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  • Hefferbub
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    I built a server like this about a year and a half ago. It has performed beautifully hosting server VMs through Proxmox and was an excellent value compared to traditional server offerings. It is cool, quiet and fast for my relatively modest workload, while being quite inexpensive.

    What made this motherboard especially valuable was its support for PCIE bifurcation on it’s 16X slot, so for $80 I could add 4 PCIE GEN4 M2 SSD slots, each with a full 4 lanes. And since it has basic built in video support, I didn’t need that slot for a video card.

    Case Antec P101 Silent $110
    Motherboard ASRock Rack X570D4U-2L2T $536
    CPU Ryzen 9 3650X 16/32 ZEN2 $767
    Memory 4X Kingston 32GB DDR4 ECC UDIMM P/N: KSM32ED8/32ME $644
    CPU & case fans Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4 + 3 case fans $141.72
    SSD Card NVME x16 to quad X4 Asus HYPER M.2 X16 GEN 4 CARD $80
    OS SSD Sabrent 512GB Rocket GEN3 (SB-ROCKET-512) 800TBW $76
    DATA SSDs 2X Addlink S90 2TB GEN4 NVME (3600TBW endurance) $745 (with room for 2 more)
    IPMI Onboard ASpeed IPMI/BMI
    Power Supply Seasonic (SSR-550PX) 80+ Platinum 550W S/N: R2007EA206400096 (10 yr) $120
    Total cost ~$3500


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  • Devorlon
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    I've got an a320 board that I managed to get for £20 new. I'm planning on putting a cheap APU in for transcoding, does anyone know if having a better GPU (on the APU) makes VA-API run better? I've had conflicting answers on whether or not it uses the "media engine" or the graphics pipeline.

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  • CochainComplex
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
    Does this mean that AMD or Motherboard Manufacturers might release BIOS and Firmware updates that'll enable SEV (and maybe SEM) on supported Ryzen platforms like my Ryzen Pro APU that has the sev and sev_es cpuflags?

    Those seem like features that Ryzen will need enabled (if available) if they're going to operate as servers.
    any good source for Pro APUs? once got scamed by aliexpress "200GE Pro" ...

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  • onlyLinuxLuvUBack
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    Michael

    >> and the WattsUp Pro external power meter no longer working with the latest Linux kernels due to some USB serial driver regression.

    I don't understand why you didn't just use separate older/compat machine/box/tower to run the linux version that has a kernel that works with the power meter ?
    then run a scp at the end of test to get the power log



    If you want another article could be install a sas hba pcie( or a sata pcie controller) and everyone has the same storage path to see if xeon is really faster at writes ?

    When you look at datasheet for sata drive they always bench with intel sata ports because they are the fastest ports

    Also this is a what if cheap server but... why are you not running a sata hdd instead of ssd ?






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  • yaneti
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    Theoretically one could use a DASH enabled motherboard + Ryzen PRO CPU to get the same oob-management "server" experience - and they come cheaper than the ASRockRacks with built-in ASpeed BMC.
    Unfortunately the only motherboards with DASH that seem to be available are the ones with Realtek nics (eg. ASRock A520M-HDVP/DASH). It looks like DASH support under Linux seems to be an afterthought (or actively-hostile-thought) for both ASRock and Realtek. The latter don't publicly document their chips so its hard to know how to talk to the OOB engine there.

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  • skeevy420
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    Originally posted by Michael View Post

    At least from what I am told, it sounds like the Ryzen "server" motherboards should all broadly support it... (Unfortunately, this ASRock Rack 1U server is my only Ryzen 'server' board at the moment and that server needs to be shipped back out / returned tomorrow so this is my last of the testing now.) At the moment the server motherboards seem to principally be ASRock Rack but I am told much more is on the way.
    I have a Gigabyte consumer board, a B550M-DS3H. Something cheap because I was building on a tight budget. Just checked the prices of those ASRock Racks and they cost more than my CPU. I've been wanting a new motherboard, but those are a bit out of my price. Something in the $120-$150 range would be nice. I hope some of those are on the way.

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  • Michael
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

    That's nice to know and confirms what I've read; about how it all comes down to whether or not the firmware will support those features. If AMD is going to push for Ryzen as as Server then I'd like to be glass half full and hope they'll encourage their partners to enable the security features.
    At least from what I am told, it sounds like the Ryzen "server" motherboards should all broadly support it... (Unfortunately, this ASRock Rack 1U server is my only Ryzen 'server' board at the moment and that server needs to be shipped back out / returned tomorrow so this is my last of the testing now.) At the moment the server motherboards seem to principally be ASRock Rack but I am told much more is on the way.

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  • skeevy420
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    Originally posted by Michael View Post

    secure memory encryption can at least be enabled on the ASRock Rack server I was testing.
    That's nice to know and confirms what I've read; about how it all comes down to whether or not the firmware will support those features. If AMD is going to push for Ryzen as as Server then I'd like to be glass half full and hope they'll encourage their partners to enable the security features.

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  • Michael
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
    Does this mean that AMD or Motherboard Manufacturers might release BIOS and Firmware updates that'll enable SEV (and maybe SEM) on supported Ryzen platforms like my Ryzen Pro APU that has the sev and sev_es cpuflags?

    Those seem like features that Ryzen will need enabled (if available) if they're going to operate as servers.
    secure memory encryption can at least be enabled on the ASRock Rack server I was testing.

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  • skeevy420
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    Does this mean that AMD or Motherboard Manufacturers might release BIOS and Firmware updates that'll enable SEV (and maybe SEM) on supported Ryzen platforms like my Ryzen Pro APU that has the sev and sev_es cpuflags?

    Those seem like features that Ryzen will need enabled (if available) if they're going to operate as servers.

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