OpenBLAS Deciding Whether To Drop Support For Russia's Elbrus CPUs

[h0tc0d3]

The man has a lot courage and heroism, he stands up for what he believes in. That's more than many Russians who unfortunately are too afraid to speak up and stand up for their rights before they are all taken away from them. There is a popular Western saying about this from the nazi timeframe...

The heroism of this man consisted only in the fact that he loves Western money just like the Nazis in Ukraine. In fact, his publications are very funny and have no evidence. This man has been sawing the money of the West for years, and they consider him almost a hero there. But in the Russian Federation he is nobody, and as an oppositionist, no one respects him. The most respected oppositionist was Boris Nemtsov, and Navalny is only a pitiful laughingstock against his background. Imagine a person who comes to a society of respected mathematicians and tells that he has solved the Hodge conjecture. But he cannot give any proof, but he tells all the time what a cool mathematician he is. This is about Navalny.

[PerformanceExpert]

stop using Russia as if its Putin the culprit for all the problems in Ukraine.
Ukraine created all this mess in first place, and now somebody needs to deal with it..

Again, Russia don't want land, they have plenty of land, plenty of oil, plenty of Gas, plenty of precious minerals,
What they want is peace in the east of Ukraine.

Well if they really want peace they can leave Ukraine right now, including removing all the forces and military equipment in the breakaway regions (as per the Minsk agreement).

[PerformanceExpert]

The heroism of this man consisted only in the fact that he loves Western money just like the Nazis in Ukraine. In fact, his publications are very funny and have no evidence. This man has been sawing the money of the West for years, and they consider him almost a hero there. But in the Russian Federation he is nobody, and as an oppositionist, no one respects him. The most respected oppositionist was Boris Nemtsov, and Navalny is only a pitiful laughingstock against his background. Imagine a person who comes to a society of respected mathematicians and tells that he has solved the Hodge conjecture. But he cannot give any proof, but he tells all the time what a cool mathematician he is. This is about Navalny.

It sounds you Russians really fear Navalny... No reason to kill him if he could only get a few percent of the vote, but if he might get close to beating Putin then he suddenly becomes a huge danger to the regime...

[h0tc0d3]

stop using Russia as if its Putin the culprit for all the problems in Ukraine.
Ukraine created all this mess in first place, and now somebody needs to deal with it..

Yes, Ukraine politics love money but not have natural gas or oil. It's funny how they beg from all countries and humiliate themselves with outstretched hands. At the same time, they still manage to steal the money that was issued for their citizens. Their economy is bankrupt, and they were unable to repay the loan to Russia, but in Europe they considered that it was not worth recognizing a default and it was better to stuff them with useless, old and dangerous weapons.

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/strela-raketen-der-bundeswehr-weisen-erhebliche-maengel-auf-a-5260e48f-5977-4f0d-8f79-dac5f24ced94

[tuxd3v]

And you don't consider a ground invasion and being showered with missiles and bombs provocation?

I do, but who provoked first killing thousands and thousands of civilians?
yeah it was Ukraine..

Then why didn't they just go into eastern Ukraine?

They are in the eastern Ukraine now, but the majority of nazism, comes from western Ukraine, that's the problem..

The regular Ukrainian army is fighting the separatists, in the east. I don't know if there are also paramilitary groups, but the main fighting is with the regular army because they were trying to keep their land from being stolen by Russia.

Yes the nazi extremists from the Azov battalion and from the Right Sektor, are in eastern Ukraine killing the civilians.
And no, Russia don't want more land, they have plenty of it.

Except most of it is a frozen wilderness. But, what Putin really wants in Ukraine is most of all to make sure his own people don't see an example of a successful democracy on their doorstep, consisting of people like them.

Russia land is very rich in minerals, oil, gas, etc, so don't look at it as a frozen wilderness, because it has a lot of value..
Putin has nothing todo with the conflict in Ukraine, Russia as a president,and it will take measures regardless of the president it has..
Its not Putin, its Russia interests, in the same way when America invades a Country, its not its president but the American interests..

There are no successful democracy in Ukraine,unfortunately,
There elected president was overtroned in a coup organized by the CIA in 2014, and after that only puppet regimes were installed, taking only into account the interests of western Ukraine people, forgetting about all the people that live in eastern Ukraine.. in Ukraine there have being bomb attacks, shelling with artillery,kidnapping,snipers, and so on..pure terrorism.
Do you know that majority of the others political opponents to Zelensky, are in prison??I think that says a lot about your "democratic" Ukraine..
Half of the population couldn't even participate in the Elections, its unbelievable but its truth.

[h0tc0d3]

Well if they really want peace they can leave Ukraine right now, including removing all the forces and military equipment in the breakaway regions (as per the Minsk agreement).

It is worth noting that our arme were not there until the end of March 2022. It was just a manipulation by Ukraine to get money and weapons from the West. They killed their own people. If our troops were really there, then Ukraine would have long ago had nothing left. We endured for 8 years, and everyone was asked to sit down at the negotiating table. But Ukraine refused to fulfill the Minsk agreements, the first point in them is that Ukraine must recognize their autonomy and guarantee the safety of all residents of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. But it was not profitable for them, they are bankrupt! And they need to pay social benefits to these citizens, it was more profitable for them to continue to pilfer weapons and money from the West.

I will repeat again.

Nobody tells you, but politicians and TV presenters in Ukraine have been openly calling for more than 10 years to kill Russians, and infringe on their rights in every possible way. But you will never hear this in Russia or Belarus. There, criminal responsibility for inciting interethnic hatred and is equated to terrorism. In the Russian Federation, they always speak well of the Ukrainians and all world peoples. RF is a multinational country with more than 190 ethnic groups. This is the country that has suffered the most from terrorism in the country itself, and especially in Chechnya and Dagestan. Therefore, with the advent of Putin, criminal responsibility was introduced for inciting ethnic hatred. All conflicts within the country were stopped. For more than 20 years, peace and tranquility have been living in our territory. Sochi Olympics and the World Football Championship showed that in the Russian Federation people treat everyone well, regardless of their religion or country. While other countries are trying to exterminate rare ethnic groups, our country is trying to preserve and unite them. You will never hear in the Russian Federation to humiliate Europeans or Americans, but you will hear how they call for humiliating Russians in EU and USA. Unfortunately, everyone has confused politics and peoples, and more and more calls are being made to expel Russian students and to ban disabled people from performing at the Paralympics. Crazy politicians apparently believe that disabled people are fighting in Ukraine and threaten their safety. It's absurd and the world has gone mad. How everyone quickly forgot that the President of Ukraine - Volodymyr Zelensky at the Security Council of Europe threatened the whole world with nuclear weapons. From this Europe would suffer the most. Ukraine has the technology and resources to create a dirty bomb that is more terrifying than a conventional nuclear bomb and makes territories uninhabitable. Ukraine has been blackmailing the Russian Federation for more than 30 years on every occasion, they have no gas and oil, their economy is in decline and they are bankrupt, but she could start blackmailing Europe in the same way, which she has already begun to do at the Security Council of Europe. The politicians of Ukraine pumped the people of Ukraine for years into conflict with Russia, and at the same time they stole all European money and weapons and sold weapons to the whole world. They called themselves the most powerful army in the world, and everyone was told that they were fighting the Russian Federation, but they were killing their own citizens. But everyone was tired of this, and Belarus and Kazakhstan supported Russia. Ukraine could not raise its army, but stole all these years, and was not ready for the Russian invasion. This is a problem for all our peoples. Also, no one will tell you about the thousands of scammers from Ukraine who deceived our grandmothers, mothers, cancer patients and mothers of children. These people have no honor or conscience. This is very sad. But Europe has already faced these people with an influx of migrants who behave arrogantly and aggressively.

It's bad that they try to mix science and politics. Are uneducated idiots who believe that openblas are used to create weapons. Apparently these people never went to university. This is a linear algebra library that uses a lot of scientific calculations. The mathematical school in Russia is one of the strongest. And most importantly, openblas is used by the lib2geom and opencv libraries. Which are used in graphic editors and computer vision. In this case, these mentally ill people should be banned from kitchen knives, because they can kill a person. Therefore, openblas maintainers should apologize to the people of Russia and resign. There is no place for politics and mentally ill maintainers in open source. All goodness and peace!

[h0tc0d3]

It sounds you Russians really fear Navalny... No reason to kill him if he could only get a few percent of the vote, but if he might get close to beating Putin then he suddenly becomes a huge danger to the regime...

We are afraid of crazy people like him.

[tuxd3v]

it seems Russian disinformation agents are out in full force on here... It's unbelievable that some on here are actually justifying the invasion and indiscriminate attacks on civilians as removing nazis - apparently there are about 44 million nazis in Ukraine.

If you go by that road we could say that US agents are here in full force..
No one is, afaik, justifying nothing, we are discussing the problems that exist, and the ones that created this situation in first place..
No Ukraine has a lot of different people put in the same country, and that, in my opinion was a big mistake, because as we see now, they can't leave together..
Yes there are a big growth in nazism in Ukraine, mostly in western Ukraine.
But that doesn't mean all western Ukraine people are nazis, for sure a lot of them aren't.

Oh, OK, attack a nuclear power station. What next?

They are not attacking power stations, they just took control of them, because there are circulating reports that Ukraine was trying to build a nuclear bomb, and the US knows it.
Also Zelensky, himself, told in Germany that Ukraine was thinking in go nuclear..

[tuxd3v]

I find it fascinating how so many Russians (or at least the ones you hear from) seem to find NATO so threatening and scary, and feel like they are being almost attacked by it.

Because, as someone who lives in a NATO country, I can tell you that all of us gave absolutely zero thought to Russia.

I also live in a NATO country,
But I am aware that NATO is very evil in nature, and it always looked to Russia as the enemy.
If you look to Europe, you will find out that NATO has being expanding to the north, and in some cases is already at Russia doorstep.
Ukraine is a red line for Russians, as it shares a very big frontier with Russia, because of that, is very important for NATO.

Look, I live in a NATO country, and I know what NATO is capable of, but I also Understand why Russia is worried with this developments..
You just need to look to the amount of Countries that NATO invaded and bombed, to see what the alliance is all about.

[tuxd3v]

I don't go that far. It seems unlikely that Putin will back down, but I think it's possible he'd accept taking only eastern Ukraine. At this point, that would be Zelenskyy's least-bad option.

The problem is not Putin, the problem are the developments on the Ground.
Russia with Putin or without Putin will for sure take steps to safeguard its security.

Again, Russians don't want land, they have plenty of it, they want to solve the real problem,
The nazis are killing Russian Uranians, that is the problem, and it just don't go away by itself
One way of solving it would be Ukranian military declare war on nazism, but the problem is that unfortunately nazism is very present since the military to some government positions, and even Zelinsky don't have the power to do it, or they will chop Zelinsky head off.

What options are left in the table?
The only one I see is Russia taking the step to eliminate nazism in Ukraine..
But that, as I notice, creates a lot of fuss in the international Community..

As for Putin, I think it's ultimately the Russians who should sort out their governance problems. I'm not just being oblique, I really mean that.

In any Democracy the president is voted by the people, of-course that the future of Russia will be decided by Russians..
One thing that I take, is that whoever be the president of Russia, Russia will always have its interests to safeguard..