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  • #11
    It would be interesting to pick one or two of the most interesting benchmarks where Windows wins and rerun it with the e-cores disabled. This would show if the issue is just p/e core scheduling or if there are other performance gains in windows.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Danny3 View Post
      One more reason to not choose Intel!
      I'm pretty sure people who are anti-Intel (or Nvidia for that matter), don't need reasons for that.
      It's regrettable the proper scheduler hasn't been merged already, but I'm not going to skip on a great piece of hardware because I don't know how to disable a few cores until the scheduler is in place. And since I'm not buying this for games, I'm pretty sure I can scale back on the "turbo all the time" power setting and end up with a mighty efficient beast, too.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by HEL88 View Post
        Intel has shown that the linux desktop is completely irrelevant.

        And maybe they're right. Only some IT stuff use it.
        No, Intel just rushed the release of Alder Lake to say they are faster than AMD before the end of the year.
        So they sacrificed Linux performance for some times in exchange for a publicity stunt.

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        • #14
          The weirdest part is Clear Linux performing significantly worse than other distro in so many cases...

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          • #15
            Originally posted by HEL88 View Post
            Intel has shown that the linux desktop is completely irrelevant.
            Not as much as you. Windows is broken, slow, insecure spying POS.

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            • #16
              Butbutbut… Windows is supposed to be the slow one. This is not fair!!!

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Danny3 View Post
                One more reason to not choose Intel!
                Exactly! I mean: I'm not as anti-Intel as some others on here, but they're not what they used to be. That's why my new PC, that will arrive next month if shipping isn't delayed somehow, has an AMD Ryzen 9 5900X. My first AMD in, like, forever. (the last time I had one was many years ago when the proprietary Radeon drivers were always slow and broken on Linux)
                Last edited by Vistaus; 12 November 2021, 12:46 PM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Danny3 View Post
                  One more reason to not choose Intel!
                  Bear in mind that Phoronix's initial review of the 12900K Alder Lake that had no scheduler fixes whatsoever still beat the 5950X in general, launched at a lower price, and gives you quality integrated graphics with a full open source stack that the 5950X will literally never have. On top of that, scheduler fixes in future kernels can not only improve performance but also improve power efficiency.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by spykes View Post

                    No, Intel just rushed the release of Alder Lake to say they are faster than AMD before the end of the year.
                    So they sacrificed Linux performance for some times in exchange for a publicity stunt.
                    Exactly this, and why I didn't fall for it and buy Alder Lake at launch (went with a 5800X) and be at the mercy of DDR5 (which showns no real performance benefit in gaming), no use for PCIE5. Just a bunch of unnecessary stuff, on top of very expensive motherboards, low availability, and premature software support, not to mention it can't even play 50+ popular games.

                    I'm not shilling for AMD, those are just the facts.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by perpetually high View Post

                      Exactly this, and why I didn't fall for it and buy Alder Lake at launch (went with a 5800X) and be at the mercy of DDR5 (which showns no real performance benefit in gaming), no use for PCIE5. Just a bunch of unnecessary stuff, on top of very expensive motherboards, low availability, and premature software support, not to mention it can't even play 50+ popular games.

                      I'm not shilling for AMD, those are just the facts.
                      Except that there are boards out there for Alder lake with DDR4, having more than 2 M2 slots is actually useful and you can get 5800X performance from a 12600k at ~$200 less, yeah, solid facts, solid choice. Having (optional) WiFi and Bluetooth is also totally useless in an increasingly more mobile world.
                      Also, you can play all those games if you disable the E cores. Which you don't need for gaming. And it's not that Alder Lake can't place those games, it's the idiotic DRM that thinks the low-power cores are a different system and refuse to activate it (it's just Denuvo, everything else seems to be working fine).

                      PS And let's all pretend AMD didn't do exactly the same with Zen2 launch - cheap, capable processors, but for the first year paired only with expensive X570 mobos.

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