Ampere Altra Max M128-30 Linux Performance Preview

[sophisticles]

Impressive performance and power consumption, but I can't find any word on cost of these processors.

Also, while there are benchmarks that run on this architecture, i wonder how many real world applications there are that can work with these processors.

[tildearrow]

vs. Apple M1 single-thread?

Ampere, I am waiting for your 8-core processor...

Phoronix doesn't test single-thread performance, and I cannot pay $10,000 just to test that :<

[onlyLinuxLuvUBack]

Would love to see those indeed.

Also, the mandelbrot c source https://gist.github.com/andrejbauer/7919569 , where you pin 1 .bin running to each cpu core.
That's what I use to see the icelake drawing power. Give it a fairly large image size so it runs for a few min. So if you have 112 cores then run 112 .bin one pin to each cpu.

[Etherman]

Also, while there are benchmarks that run on this architecture, i wonder how many real world applications there are that can work with these processors.

You can buy an raspberry pi 4 and find out.
It runs pretty much anything that isn't closed source. Libreoffice, Gnome, Firefox and much more.
Desktop Arm64 Linux is done and 100% ready. (Except for the newest AMD graphics cards)

[brucethemoose]

You can buy an raspberry pi 4 and find out.
It runs pretty much anything that isn't closed source. Libreoffice, Gnome, Firefox and much more.
Desktop Arm64 Linux is done and 100% ready. (Except for the newest AMD graphics cards)

Also almost anything interpreted, even if its closed source, like Java, Python, and so on.

[Caveira]

Michael maybe a toolchain comparison (GCC vs LLVM) would be nice. Both have received new features lately, especially for ARM

[mangeek]

I would love if they made a micro-ATX board with an 8-core CPU for pro-tinkerers, developers, and businesses looking to dip their feet in ARM waters.

[bridgman]

I would love if they made a micro-ATX board with an 8-core CPU for pro-tinkerers, developers, and businesses looking to dip their feet in ARM waters.

AFAIK there is a 4-core board - I believe they only made a 4 core evaluation CPU:

https://developer.arm.com/tools-and-software/development-boards/neoverse-n1-sdp

[drakonas777]

High performance ARM based desktop computers for the consumer won't be a thing anytime soon. This market is too niche for a high volume. It's too niche for any considerable volume actually. I do not know why exactly some of you have such a hard on for ARM, but you can calm down and go buy f***ing i5s/R5s, since they won't be beaten on general desktop price/perf for decades to come, not to mention software compatibility and optimizations. Most of you code in scripting shits like Python/JS anyway, so ISA does not even affect you aside form "I want modern ISA cause it's cool".

[tildearrow]

High performance ARM based desktop computers for the consumer won't be a thing anytime soon. This market is too niche for a high volume. It's too niche for any considerable volume actually. I do not know why exactly some of you have such a hard on for ARM, but you can calm down and go buy f***ing i5s/R5s, since they won't be beaten on general desktop price/perf for decades to come, not to mention software compatibility and optimizations. Most of you code in scripting shits like Python/JS anyway, so ISA does not even affect you aside form "I want modern ISA cause it's cool".

What about for small server (small office/home office/small and micro company)? The low power draw of Arm (compared to x86) is attractive, and Apple proved that even on a high performance design (e.g. Apple M1) Arm matches or even outperforms x86.
I don't code in "scripting shits" too much. Most of the code I run on/write for my server is Java and C/C++.

Unrelated: Also due to the low power draw of most Arm designs (well, except Ampere's but those are over 100 core monsters), it becomes much easier to power a board from DC without using a large power supply.
On the other hand, x86 boards have high power requirements, and 99.9% of the time you have to use a power supply which is usually (99% of the time) powered by AC.
During a power outage, getting DC from a battery is much easier and much more efficient than either using a generator (not too efficient) or a battery connected to an inverter (which is redundant since you are converting DC > AC > DC).