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  • #11
    Impressive performance and power consumption, but I can't find any word on cost of these processors.

    Also, while there are benchmarks that run on this architecture, i wonder how many real world applications there are that can work with these processors.

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    • #12
      vs. Apple M1 single-thread?

      Ampere, I am waiting for your 8-core processor...

      Phoronix doesn't test single-thread performance, and I cannot pay $10,000 just to test that :<
      Last edited by tildearrow; 28 September 2021, 12:31 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by peterdk View Post

        Would love to see those indeed.


        Also, the mandelbrot c source https://gist.github.com/andrejbauer/7919569 , where you pin 1 .bin running to each cpu core.
        That's what I use to see the icelake drawing power. Give it a fairly large image size so it runs for a few min. So if you have 112 cores then run 112 .bin one pin to each cpu.
        Last edited by onlyLinuxLuvUBack; 28 September 2021, 12:45 PM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

          Also, while there are benchmarks that run on this architecture, i wonder how many real world applications there are that can work with these processors.
          You can buy an raspberry pi 4 and find out.
          It runs pretty much anything that isn't closed source. Libreoffice, Gnome, Firefox and much more.
          Desktop Arm64 Linux is done and 100% ready. (Except for the newest AMD graphics cards)

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Etherman View Post
            You can buy an raspberry pi 4 and find out.
            It runs pretty much anything that isn't closed source. Libreoffice, Gnome, Firefox and much more.
            Desktop Arm64 Linux is done and 100% ready. (Except for the newest AMD graphics cards)
            Also almost anything interpreted, even if its closed source, like Java, Python, and so on.

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            • #16
              Michael maybe a toolchain comparison (GCC vs LLVM) would be nice. Both have received new features lately, especially for ARM

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              • #17
                I would love if they made a micro-ATX board with an 8-core CPU for pro-tinkerers, developers, and businesses looking to dip their feet in ARM waters.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by mangeek View Post
                  I would love if they made a micro-ATX board with an 8-core CPU for pro-tinkerers, developers, and businesses looking to dip their feet in ARM waters.
                  AFAIK there is a 4-core board - I believe they only made a 4 core evaluation CPU:

                  https://developer.arm.com/tools-and-...eoverse-n1-sdp
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                  • #19
                    High performance ARM based desktop computers for the consumer won't be a thing anytime soon. This market is too niche for a high volume. It's too niche for any considerable volume actually. I do not know why exactly some of you have such a hard on for ARM, but you can calm down and go buy f***ing i5s/R5s, since they won't be beaten on general desktop price/perf for decades to come, not to mention software compatibility and optimizations. Most of you code in scripting shits like Python/JS anyway, so ISA does not even affect you aside form "I want modern ISA cause it's cool".

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by drakonas777 View Post
                      High performance ARM based desktop computers for the consumer won't be a thing anytime soon. This market is too niche for a high volume. It's too niche for any considerable volume actually. I do not know why exactly some of you have such a hard on for ARM, but you can calm down and go buy f***ing i5s/R5s, since they won't be beaten on general desktop price/perf for decades to come, not to mention software compatibility and optimizations. Most of you code in scripting shits like Python/JS anyway, so ISA does not even affect you aside form "I want modern ISA cause it's cool".
                      What about for small server (small office/home office/small and micro company)? The low power draw of Arm (compared to x86) is attractive, and Apple proved that even on a high performance design (e.g. Apple M1) Arm matches or even outperforms x86.
                      I don't code in "scripting shits" too much. Most of the code I run on/write for my server is Java and C/C++.

                      Unrelated: Also due to the low power draw of most Arm designs (well, except Ampere's but those are over 100 core monsters), it becomes much easier to power a board from DC without using a large power supply.
                      On the other hand, x86 boards have high power requirements, and 99.9% of the time you have to use a power supply which is usually (99% of the time) powered by AC.
                      During a power outage, getting DC from a battery is much easier and much more efficient than either using a generator (not too efficient) or a battery connected to an inverter (which is redundant since you are converting DC > AC > DC).

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