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  • #21
    Originally posted by loganj View Post
    what happen to GE variants of 5000 series?
    will they only be available for OEM builds?
    You and me both.
    I've been waiting well over a year for a low power solution to replace my ancient Sandybridge 2100T home theater box.
    C'mon AMD, get it together and release these things already!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by CaptainLugnuts View Post

      You and me both.
      I've been waiting well over a year for a low power solution to replace my ancient Sandybridge 2100T home theater box.
      C'mon AMD, get it together and release these things already!
      Set the power profile to energy saver or whatever and you are there even with a 5000 G.

      Or get a 5000 U series barebone, those are 15-20 watts, and will run circles around your 35 watt 2100T.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by ddriver View Post

        Or get a 5000 U series barebone, those are 15-20 watts, and will run circles around your 35 watt 2100T.
        Please show me where I can buy one. They've been out of stock forever. Preferably a 5600U.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by ddriver View Post
          Set the power profile to energy saver or whatever and you are there even with a 5000 G.
          Yes. A "ge" is basically a "g" with a lower base clock, but I guess AMD also saves power elsewhere in the CPU at the performance expense obviously.

          Another way to buy a "ge" if it is absolutely what you want, go buy an OEM PC with a "ge", replace the "ge" with another compatible CPU, put the "ge" in your system and finally sell the OEM PC used "like new" not a scratch on eBay signaling you put a faster CPU :-)

          Or directly buy a used "ge" from eBay (search for "AMD ge" for instance). Issues: scalper prices on the recent ones, ES (?), genuine offer (?). This should not stop you though, before the pandemic back in 2019 I bought a used TR 2950X well below MSRP and I never had any problem with it and it is still running. Have I ever been burned on eBay? Sure I bought 4 used HGST He 6TB, 3 were good, 1 had probably visited a country at war and had unrecoverable errors. But given the price, it was still a good deal. The trick is to be patient for the "good" deals and do your home work to avoid the "too good" deals.

          Originally posted by ddriver View Post
          Or get a 5000 U series barebone, those are 15-20 watts, and will run circles around your 35 watt 2100T.
          Mmm... Is not AMD 5000U series FC-BGA? Not AM4?

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          On my side a 4750g idle with Ubuntu Mate burns ~26W at the wall, climbs max to ~78W during boot, 80W running a Phoronix Test Suite with one exception: climbed to 139.3 W (!) during the Video Encoding Test Suite.

          In comparison an ASRock 4x4 4800U box idle with Windows 10 desktop between 8.5 and 14W(*) at the wall, climbs max to 54W during boot. Note: this box gets hot like crazy as soon as the CPU actually do something significant and let's say the fan is not silent which means it could be an issue during an HTPC viewing. I would advise to rather use a much bigger box with plenty of ventilation holes (mesh) and use a bigger heat sink with a 90 or 120mm fan (e.g. Noctua) so noise is not an issue. On the other hand, these boxes are great to fix between a monitor to save room on the desk. You can't always get it all :-)

          I'm pretty sure the 4750g looks at the 4800U in its rear mirror during benchmarks (I have not merge the results to see).

          (*) It seems that Windows 10 always finds something to do to keep busy and burn calories to stay in shape I guess.
          Last edited by domih; 26 August 2021, 03:50 AM.

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          • #25
            I can't find any GE CPUs in prebuilt systems in Canada. I do prefer to build my own so I can make it silent and as efficient as possible.
            I have probably put more into electricity over the last decade for the HT box than it cost to build. All of the prebuilt boxes use shit parts on low-end machines.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by CaptainLugnuts View Post

              Please show me where I can buy one. They've been out of stock forever. Preferably a 5600U.
              The Asus PN51 is decent, and seems to available in stock here and there. It sold out quickly from all the big stores, understandably, but you may be able to find one in some smaller local retailer that got stock.

              I also presume they did not end production, but are merely scheduling another batch. Poor availability shouldn't be unexpected in this market climate.

              Lastly, do not ignore the 4000 series U barebones, they are still way, way faster than what you are replacing. They actually offer better bang for the buck, even if 10-15% slower.
              Last edited by ddriver; 26 August 2021, 05:19 AM.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                Considering the wattage, these are impressive results.
                I just wish AMD would release a 5700; same thing as the 5700G minus the iGPU, for a lower price.
                Its a monolithic chip.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by piotrj3 View Post
                  Michael, do you have 5800X? It really feels wierd to not compare 5700G to 5800X as essentially they are almost the same CPU with just less cache with iGPU
                  5700g cpu ~= 5600x cpu perf

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by ddriver View Post
                    This no longer puts apus under the same umbrella, leading me to presume that the 5000 series cezanne apus indeed support it.
                    I wouldn't count on it. All informations I found online point out no ECC support. You'll better wait for Pro 5650G/5750G tray availability.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by ddriver View Post
                      That's a really good product offering.

                      Also, AMD seem to finally enable ECC support on non-pro APUs.

                      Making this an immaculate choice for a decently priced, decently performing, reliable work system. Especially in light of the current gpu pricing insanity.
                      Sure?
                      https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/...-a2536478.html (German)
                      and everything else I looked up tells me, that there is no ECC support. It still seems to be PRO (any non-G/GE) only. Sad. Because I'd really love to build more setups with ECC, no matter what use case - ECC simply is the safer thing.
                      Stop TCPA, stupid software patents and corrupt politicians!

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