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  • dschwartz783
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    Yeah, this is why I'm kinda sad that the Linux kernel became so popular. The dev community behind it truly is toxic. Outright removing the module because you think it shouldn't have to need root? This is an important module, and removing it is not an option, but here we are. There are many other kernel dev teams that are made of normal non-toxic human beings, not led by a megalomaniac (usually part of an OS team, generally these things are not separate).

    They just yell at people too much, and clearly give too little of a shit about what people think. Honestly, I tend to think these days that their attitude is a liability for business, because there may come a day where they remove something YOU need, and you'll just be screwed. Reminds me of when they broke ZoL by removing a pretty important function from the kernel API (don't recall which). Luckily the ZoL team is excellent, so you'd be hard-pressed to royally screw those guys, but a smaller kernel dev team? Different story.

    With that said, I use Linux daily. I'm writing this on a Ubuntu 20.04 Ryzen 9 behemoth and loving every minute of it, but what's going on at the core of my OS is very concerning to me. The sheer childishness of it all.

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  • timofonic
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    Originally posted by bridgman View Post



    I didn't think so, but need to find out.
    Any news from the people responsible about this? Did he/she/they replied yet?

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  • agd5f
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    Originally posted by bridgman View Post

    I didn't think so, but need to find out.
    They are just sysfs files. You can read the files to get the data. See:
    https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documenta...ysfs-interface

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  • Teggs
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    Originally posted by sandy8925 View Post

    So ....... Pentium FDIV bug was ahead of it's time?
    Well, Quantum Physicists do say that events can have effects both forwards and backwards through time. I suggest submitting a paper on the matter to a respected journal in that field.

    The beginning of next April might be a good date for publication.

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  • bridgman
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    Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    My understanding from the developer is that hwmon requires non-root access.
    Originally posted by loganj View Post
    bridgman is that the only way to use it?
    I didn't think so, but need to find out.

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  • Guest
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    Originally posted by zxy_thf View Post
    The funny situation is, being precise is now considered as bugs by paranoids.
    Someday they're gonna welcome processors that randomly yield 3 when computing 1+1 in the name of security.
    So ....... Pentium FDIV bug was ahead of it's time?

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  • gigi
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    For the future, we'll have to make sure that no privileged-access-only drivers are accepted into the hwmon subsystem in the first place. The hwmon ABI document was updated accordingly."
    are they looking old commits also?

    as long as they stand by the above statement, everybody should be happy

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  • loganj
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    bridgman is that the only way to use it?

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  • bridgman
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    Originally posted by loganj View Post
    i'm not sure if i understand correctly
    they remove it because you needed root access to use it?
    if so whats wrong with that? there are tons of feature that needs root access on any OS. and not using it because you don't have root access will not make your linux work worse than not having it at all in the linux
    My understanding from the developer is that hwmon requires non-root access.

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  • arQon
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
    There is no permissiond that everyone agrees to work with.
    For god's sake, don't give them MORE ideas about where to sprawl that mess into next!

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