AMD Energy Monitoring Driver Slated To Be Removed From The Linux Kernel

[creative]

coder You might not want to respond again, I won't answer it. Doing other things right now. Was not trying to trigger anyone honestly.

[creative]

What are you even talking about?

Anyway, monitoring is useful to know for people trying to tune their system to maximize their battery life, or if they're stuck working in a hot upstairs room all summer and trying to balance heat and performance of their PCs.

There are other reasons, besides, such as for Phoronix' benchmarking purposes that people use to make purchasing decisions who are concerned about things like heat, noise, or electricity usage.

If you don't care, then fine. I just don't understand this need to lash out at those who do. There are names for people who do things like that.

Was not really lashing out, or even angry for that matter. Believe it or not I was not even excited in any way. I just think its a dead horse that people keep on beating.

[coder]

I tie all this paranoia in with smartphone culture and social media generated mental illnesses. Constantly monitoring everything and just can't leave it alone, picking at sores that DONT heal. Stop picking at it.

What are you even talking about?

Anyway, monitoring is useful to know for people trying to tune their system to maximize their battery life, or if they're stuck working in a hot upstairs room all summer and trying to balance heat and performance of their PCs.

There are other reasons, besides, such as for Phoronix' benchmarking purposes that people use to make purchasing decisions who are concerned about things like heat, noise, or electricity usage.

If you don't care, then fine. I just don't understand this need to lash out at those who do. There are names for people who do things like that.

[coder]

Are game console owners freaked out about the temperature and power draw of their machines?

Neither of those runs Linux, and AMD is on contract to provide support services (to Sony and MS) for them.

What about Mac users?

Again, AMD's graphics drivers are provided to Apple under contract. Whatever Apple wants from AMD, I'm sure it gets.

What about back in the day when people had servers using Alpha?

Power-saving was in its infancy, back then. I wonder if DEC eve bothered to put in anything like that. People running Linux on Alphas were probably mostly doing so in air-conditioned machine rooms with big enough budgets they could afford not to care about the electric bill.

Ultimately the shit does not matter.

That's arrogant of you to say. Speak only for yourself, please.

[creative]

Ah yes, more of that amazing Linux support by AMD. No current, voltage, power readings. No temperature support as well either.

Fuck AMD. I regret buying Zen 2 and will sell it off and get Intel instead. I've wasted enough of my life on a company that doesn't give a shit about Linux.

It's extremely unprofessional, embarrassingly bad and crap software.

AMD has never had that great of sensor support in Linux.

Embarrassing? No, actually to be expected honestly.

A deal breaker? Not for me.

If you have used Linux and AMD coupled as long as I have its not a thing at all. This goes all the way back to the original Athlons. AMD is not as big as intel, not as staffed.

Could it change? Don't know, and honestly its not that big of a deal, at least for me.

Are game console owners freaked out about the temperature and power draw of their machines?

What about Mac users?

What about back in the day when people had servers using Alpha?

Ultimately the shit does not matter.

I tie all this paranoia in with smartphone culture and social media generated mental illnesses. Constantly monitoring everything and just can't leave it alone, picking at sores that DONT heal. Stop picking at it.

[boboviz]

AMD CAN innovate and exexute. MIGHTILY! But only once per decade and not even for the entire decade. After Zen 4 and 3nm AMD will be tapped out. The Compute Paradigm going forward is Heterogenious and Composable with A.I. baked into the die or as a Discreet Compute part as part of the composibilty of the entire wafer and or SiP (System in Package). AMD does not have any hardware or software roadmaps at all for this paradigm other than cribbing off Intel AVX extensions and CDNA cards. Old school. As of now the best bang for the buck old school x86 compared to Intel but still old school.

So AMD acquires Xilinx for what?

[coder]

cashflow and moving money around is actually not technically the main function of these behemoths. It's Capital flow, which can include abstract concepts like money but more to the point it's the movement of HUMAN capital. The acquisition, procurement, movement, usage and ultimately disposal of human beings.

Here's where you went too far. Although there are people within these organizations on a power trip, the organization itself doesn't want people. People are expensive, annoying, and difficult -- not only as employees, but even as customers.

Every company is actually trying to have as few employees as possible, and to pay them as little as possible. And that's why I can't avoid a smirk, whenever I hear business leaders referred to as "job creators". They're actually trying harder to destroy jobs than to create them, but some amount of "human capital" is a "necessary evil", in today's world.

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I sat in on a very enlightening talk by an accountant for a corporation that I worked for, once. Basically, he said that modern, multinationals are like investment banks. All the real work happens down in the businesses they own. The corporations, themselves, basically just move around piles of money, acquire & spin-off businesses, merge, split, etc.

That wasn't actually the point of his talk -- it was actually about cashflow or something. But, he couldn't very well explain his point without explaining a certain amount about how the corporation actually worked.

That's exactly right. Even banks_( at least banks of a certain size and portfolio )_ are not even banks but "Bank Holding Companies". I'm sure some of this is due to regulations, some to tax purposes, some due to liability purposes and as a firewall from both legal jeopardy and or financial jeopardy of one unit overtaking the other, etc. etc.

And here in the States, Corporations are considered a "Person" which because of that supremely wise decision by our supremely wise Supreme Court 140 some odd years ago they collectively have re-instated the European Feudal regimen our Founding Fathers at least on paper fought to get away from. At least for White Men...who owned land...and slaves....which got you 3/5th more vote and represention per slave, but NOT for women and NOT for Blacks and NOT for Native Americans. <ahem>

And now we all get to work and experience Feudalism on plantations known as Walmart and Amazon Fulfillment Centers or Google and Facebook where your labor and output go unpaid on their platforms because YOU are the product.

And cashflow and moving money around is actually not technically the main function of these behemoths. It's Capital flow, which can include abstract concepts like money but more to the point it's the movement of HUMAN capital. The acquisition, procurement, movement, usage and ultimately disposal of human beings.

For profit.

And of course the rental fees gathered in the process from raw interest on loans to the ever increasing amounts of subscriptions to must have goods and services that we are either told we can't do without or are plain forced to subscribe to because the bought and paid for ownership model is now dead.

At least it's now a more honest model of human existence . Since we decided to abandoned the Hunter Gatherer model of human existence we have embarked on some kind of civilized version of Feudalism, with of course diversions to UN_civlized versions of Feudalism and even outright Tyranny.

Today it's a Feudalism fueled by Corporate Techno-Magic perfumed with the opiate like somnolence of convenience.

All the while "We The People" through our willingness to allow our Techno-Financial Lords and Barons to build this system, we now find ourselves working for these Lords and Barons not only making their products but actually BEING their products. We have also built up at our own expense and approval the 24/7 All Seeing, All Sensing Panopticon of Surveillance in order for Fuedalism 3.0 to better manage, control, move, exploit and finally dispose of the greatest capital resource of all.

Us

[coder]

TLDR:. Call everything 7nm ...5nm.
Ta Daaaa....Intel's BACK baby !!!

I honestly don't care what they call it. As long as they can compete on price, performance, efficiency (pick any 2), they'll do alright. If not, they have a long way to fall.

As you're fond of pointing out, ARM will not give them an easy time.

[coder]

Corporations have been buying out Congres

I sat in on a very enlightening talk by an accountant for a corporation that I worked for, once. Basically, he said that modern, multinationals are like investment banks. All the real work happens down in the businesses they own. The corporations, themselves, basically just move around piles of money, acquire & spin-off businesses, merge, split, etc.

That wasn't actually the point of his talk -- it was actually about cashflow or something. But, he couldn't very well explain his point without explaining a certain amount about how the corporation actually worked.