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    Phoronix: Loongson 2K1000 Support Queued Ahead Of Linux 5.13

    Earlier this month I mentioned Loongson 2K1000 Linux patches were published with an effort now to upstream them some four years after these 40nm dual-core MIPS-based hardware launched. That Loongson-2K1000 support is now queued in MIPS-next ahead of the Linux 5.13 cycle...

    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...000-Linux-5.13

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    There is a Loongson server platform coming out this year or early next year that uses 16 sockets of 16 core processors. It is going to be Epic!

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    • #3
      I wonder how the MIPS news a few weeks ago of becoming a RISC-V design bureau affects Loongson? As I understand it Loongson are MIPS licensees, but design their own silicon. Maybe they're now defacto *MIPS*?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by phoronix View Post
        ...as well as those around the world wanting a fully libre system.
        A "fully libre" system on a chinese CPU sounds like an oxymoron.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by lowflyer View Post
          A "fully libre" system on a chinese CPU sounds like an oxymoron.
          On the other hand a "fully libre" system on a US CPU sounds even worst..

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
            On the other hand a "fully libre" system on a US CPU sounds even worst..
            So, you're saying a POWER9 powered system is worse than Longsoon? Or the an Amlogic S905X SoC (le Potato) worse?

            Seriously?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lowflyer View Post
              So, you're saying a POWER9 powered system is worse than Longsoon? Or the an Amlogic S905X SoC (le Potato) worse?
              Seriously?
              Power9 is not completely OpenSource project, while Longsoon is a OpenArch and its produced in France, till the last version( after this one, will be produced in China probably, so they will be less appellative)..
              Right now, the3A4000 seems very nice and also very difficult to find :/

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post

                Power9 is not completely OpenSource project, while Longsoon is a OpenArch and its produced in France, till the last version( after this one, will be produced in China probably, so they will be less appellative)..
                Right now, the3A4000 seems very nice and also very difficult to find :/
                So, really no second thoughts about "developed at the Institute of Computing Technology (ICT), Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) in China. The chief architect is Professor Hu Weiwu [zh]." ?

                Personally I find the approach they are taking with X86 emulation on MIPS quite interesting. No suprise that these chips are difficult to find. But "Power9 not completely OpenSource" is equally meaningless as "Loongson is OpenArch".

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by lowflyer View Post
                  So, really no second thoughts about "developed at the Institute of Computing Technology (ICT), Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) in China. The chief architect is Professor Hu Weiwu [zh]." ?

                  Personally I find the approach they are taking with X86 emulation on MIPS quite interesting. No suprise that these chips are difficult to find. But "Power9 not completely OpenSource" is equally meaningless as "Loongson is OpenArch".
                  OfCourse it has lots and lots of Chinese Engineering on it..
                  I just said that its Produced in Europe, till last version the 4000 series, after this one, it will be produced in China.

                  Both archs are difficult to find, and when found, they are very expensive.. Power is maybe easier to find, than loongson.
                  Even Stallman had a Chinese computer, so I believe its something trustable..

                  OpenPower cpus derived, are also more trustable, than closed ones..
                  But the US has the worst reputation in the world when the word of the day is... spying!

                  This doesn't make Chinese less prone to spy, in fact China is a volcano of pirates, but they are more than 1 billion, the US is only half a billion, so it would have less probability to spy, but due to NSA, and Microsoft,Apple,Google, and others the US is number one on that matter..remember 1 guy..Eduard Snowden, I think its enough..
                  Last edited by tuxd3v; 30 March 2021, 08:11 PM. Reason: correction

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
                    I just said that its Produced in Europe, till last version the 4000 series, after this one, it will be produced in China.
                    The place of production doesn't say a lot about trustworthiness. And speaking of the production place in France that has frequently changed hands and was also once in the hands of Chinese...

                    Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
                    Even Stallman had a Chinese computer, so I believe its something trustable..
                    Blind believe in Stallman is just another religion. "Stallman had a chinese computer" yes. But he apparently no longer has one. Knowing Stallman, you would have to ask "which chinese computer exactly?". He is the man that draws *very exact* lines that even can go through the middle of a company. Just look up what he says about (chinese) Zoom.

                    Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
                    OpenPower cpus derived, are also more trustable, than closed ones..
                    On the paper yes. In real metal, it depends on who exactly had his fingers in the development. What does it help to have a "complete open" CPU core while there is an unknows hidden second compute stack on the same die?

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                    Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
                    But the US has the worst reputation in the world when the word of the day is... spying!
                    It depends on which world you live in. If you live in a deluded socialist world, then yes, the US has the worst reputation.

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                    Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
                    This doesn't make Chinese less prone to spy, in fact China is a volcano of pirates, but they are more than 1 billion, the US is only half a billion, so it would have less probability to spy, but due to NSA, and Microsoft,Apple,Google, and others the US is number one on that matter..remember 1 guy..Eduard Snowden, I think its enough..
                    Oyoyoy...

                    A country like China where *everything* that goes on has to go through the acceptance of the official Party devotes millions of workers to spying. In the US you have at least the budget of the companies you mention and the congress that limit these efforts. Agreed, these limits are not sufficient but bear in mind that the US has to counter the other countries' spying efforts.
                    As an IT-savvy person, it should have come across your desk how many cyber-attacks came out of these countries.

                    Trust in persons like Stallman and Snowden is misplaced. For as much good things they have said and done, you have to vet everything. What convinces you that Snowden *is not* a "news outlet" of the NSA?

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