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  • #41
    Originally posted by fafreeman View Post
    all i can say about this is that i'm glad i went with my 10850k from intel this time around. intel might of had those mitigations but at least the cpu's work and intel patched them via firmware and hardware fixes.
    True. Only reason I didn't go Cometlake was because of the higher power consumption and heat. I regret that decision now. When possible, I'll move over to Intel Rocketlake or Alderlake.

    And Intel Xe dGPU HPG when it launches.

    Then I don't have to deal with AMDs crap support anymore. Even their Windows drivers are shoddy to be honest.

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    • #42
      I thinks most x570 boards are using Nuvoton SIO chips. Very few if any are using ITE chips. ITE chips fell out of favor with the x470 boards because of the lack of documentation.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Keith Myers View Post
        I thinks most x570 boards are using Nuvoton SIO chips. Very few if any are using ITE chips. ITE chips fell out of favor with the x470 boards because of the lack of documentation.
        Just been looking at gigabytes offering, There using ITE.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Danny3 View Post
          Linux is a community project which works with AMD products.
          If Linux is not an AMD product, what, they should not contribuite to it to make sure that their products are properly supported, what's your point ?
          Cut the crap with lies, I don't rant after "ANY news", just the ones that annoy me a lot, like in the case of AMD, where they don't support their products and someone always has to reverse engineer something to add support for it or AMD send very late the patches.
          As a customer who pays hard worked money, It totally my right to complain as much as I want about things I don't like.
          You should be grateful for my and other people rants because without them, these companies think they are perfect and they don't need to improve anything or they need to charge extra money, which AMD is already doing.
          Without my and other people's rants here and on other platforms, AMD would've even left out the older chipsets support.
          wait what? you are a AMD customer ? "As a customer who pays hard worked money, It"

          what product did you buy ?
          Phantom circuit Sequence Reducer Dyslexia

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          • #45
            Originally posted by birdie View Post
            The issue has nothing to do with the number of developers - it has everything to do with the fact that AMD refuses to share documentation about Zen CPUs. Compare what HWiNFO64 reports for Ryzen CPUs and what 's shown in Linux. Under Windows you see like four dozen datapoints for e.g. Zen 2 CPUs and less than four under Linux. So much for AMD's open source friendliness. It's just amazing that Open Source fans continue to praise the company despite glaring long-standing issues with Open Source support. It's almost as if AMD supports Linux just enough to make open source fans happy and in reality they want to keep their secrets close to their chest just like all other companies.
            Don't they need more people to perform tasks like "share documentation about Zen CPUs"
            you know AMD does not only hire Developers but they also have laywers and managers and more.
            even the new hiring from AMD is not only Developers...
            in the past they had simple exuse what was percectly radtional for this: "It's almost as if AMD supports Linux just enough to make open source fans happy" they simple had no money to do more.
            now they have more money and now they hire more people to do more.

            so whats your opinion isn't this good ? or what do you want from AMD ? remember they and you and I no one can change the past. they can only change the future.
            Phantom circuit Sequence Reducer Dyslexia

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            • #46
              Originally posted by SilverFox View Post

              Just been looking at gigabytes offering, There using ITE.
              Here is the X570-P I have.

              https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...p_am4_atx.html

              If you zoom in on the flat layout picture, you will see at least one nuvoton near the battery.

              Buildzoid did an excellent breakdown on that board, one of the reasons I went with it.

              Here is the video of him covering it.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2gKFzNEgOY
              Last edited by creative; 15 February 2021, 08:54 PM.
              Manjaro: R7 5800X, 32GB DDR4 3200, GTX 1070

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              • #47
                Originally posted by SilverFox View Post

                Just been looking at gigabytes offering, There using ITE.
                I think they are the exception this time. ASUS certainly switched in a hot-minute after getting bit in the butt badly with their exclusive use of ITE in the x470 generation.

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                • #48
                  My understanding was that ite chips are cheaper/lower quality and so they are used on cheaper motherboards, while nuvotons are reserved for the high end.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by kbios View Post
                    My understanding was that ite chips are cheaper/lower quality and so they are used on cheaper motherboards, while nuvotons are reserved for the high end.
                    Which is what particularly irked all of us Crosshair VI and VII Hero board users which were premium boards. Those SIO chips never worked correctly.

                    Forced the BIOS devs to come up with a WMI BIOS interface to get around the major issues with the ITE chips. Sadly the WMI BIOS went away with the x570 boards.

                    The asus-wmi-sensors driver that uses the WMI interface works wonderfully on my C7H motherboards. As much info as you get with HWinf064 in Windows.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Keith Myers View Post

                      Which is what particularly irked all of us Crosshair VI and VII Hero board users which were premium boards. Those SIO chips never worked correctly.

                      Forced the BIOS devs to come up with a WMI BIOS interface to get around the major issues with the ITE chips. Sadly the WMI BIOS went away with the x570 boards.

                      The asus-wmi-sensors driver that uses the WMI interface works wonderfully on my C7H motherboards. As much info as you get with HWinf064 in Windows.
                      Just did an lsmod, nct6775 which is the particular nuvoton super i/o chip. Definitely one of the cheapest of the X570 boards but also one of the most capable, yet lacking in bells in whistles, which for me were not needed.
                      Last edited by creative; 15 February 2021, 09:26 PM.
                      Manjaro: R7 5800X, 32GB DDR4 3200, GTX 1070

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