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Originally posted by Dr. Righteous View Post
I was just thinking about how may 386, 486sx, dx, etc systems I tossed in the dumpster years ago. Junk, stacked floor to ceiling Many working order. I could have rummaged through the stacks and come with CPUs from 8808s till the modern Intel CPU at the time which at the time I think was the Bloomfield.
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Originally posted by Dr. Righteous View Post
I was just thinking about how may 386, 486sx, dx, etc systems I tossed in the dumpster years ago. Junk, stacked floor to ceiling Many working order. I could have rummaged through the stacks and come with CPUs from 8808s till the modern Intel CPU at the time which at the time I think was the Bloomfield.
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Originally posted by thunderbird32 View Post
Now days you could have flipped those 386 and 466 boxes for $100-$300 a piece on eBay, depending on specs. Vintage hardware has been soaring in price lately.
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Originally posted by strtj View PostThat's probably true for many of us. As part of my regular job duties I remember junking 50+ early high-end PowerPC macs, lots of 486 stuff, lots of early Pentium 1 stuff... It just wasn't worth saving for 20 years in order to make money on eBay. Long-term storage for items of significant size isn't free.
I have a couple PCs I decommissioned last year. They work fine and I'm wondering what I'm going to do with now. I'm thinking I'll cram them into the attic as a bonus for whomever I eventually sell my house to .Last edited by Dr. Righteous; 11 January 2021, 06:09 PM.
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Originally posted by strtj View PostWhat is the lowest memory device that anyone has running on a 5.x kernel?
Originally posted by OpenWrt WikiThe current Linux 5.4 barely works with a 32 MB RAM system and spikes in memory consumption can easily crash the router with OOM (Out-of-Memory) errors.
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Originally posted by hotaru View Post
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Originally posted by Dr. Righteous View Post
Yeah, not much of a nostalgia nerd; even though it is interesting an brings back memories just don't have the space to store anything else nor the time.
I have a couple PCs I decommissioned last year. They work fine and I'm wondering what I'm going to do with now. I'm thinking I'll cram them into the attic as a bonus for whomever I eventually sell my house to .
Besides, how old are those computers? Heck, if it's a C2D-era machine it's still good for desktop Linux, even on Wayland. Don't underestimate that processor and its GMA iGPU.
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OpenWRT on TP-Link TL-WR1043ND v1
Code:[ 0.000000] Linux version 4.14.# (builder@buildhost) (gcc version 7.# (OpenWrt GCC 7.#) #0 Sat May 16 18:32:20 2020 [ 0.000000] bootconsole [early0] enabled [ 0.000000] CPU0 revision is: 00019374 (MIPS 24Kc) [ 0.000000] MIPS: machine is TP-Link TL-WR1043ND v1 [ 0.000000] SoC: Atheros AR9132 rev 2 [ 0.000000] Determined physical RAM map: [ 0.000000] memory: 02000000 @ 00000000 (usable) [ 0.000000] Initrd not found or empty - disabling initrd [ 0.000000] Primary instruction cache 64kB, VIPT, 4-way, linesize 32 bytes. [ 0.000000] Primary data cache 32kB, 4-way, VIPT, cache aliases, linesize 32 bytes
Last edited by reba; 12 January 2021, 05:41 AM.
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Originally posted by strtj View Post
That's exactly what I wanted to know. So if you have an architecture where all existing hardware can't support more than ~32-64MB of RAM, there's absolutely no reason not to drop it from the mainline kernel. Unfortunate, but forward progress demands it. Looking at the list of archs in the article, that's actually a surprisingly small percentage of them, but it looks like there are a few where it may apply - 68000, probably SH-2, Sun 3, Apollo, and maybe one or two more. But it is possible to find MIPS R3000 hardware that can take 128MB+ of RAM, and I know there were 486 boards that could take that much too.
Gives availability of 68020, '030, '040, '060
So I wouldn't be so quick to kill the 68000 architecture.
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