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The HSA Foundation Has Been Eerily Quiet As We Roll Into 2021

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  • stiiixy
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    The site is running with insecure http, and not https. Weird.

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  • GreenReaper
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    Probably went bankrupt after there was a run on everyone's HSAs to pay for COVID-19-related healthcare.

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  • AndyChow
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    Heterogenous compute has just not been working in general. Even big.LITTLE cores don't play together, much less CPU and GPU, even with shared memory. You need a natural reason to force one type of compute into the other, and in practice, it never happens. Perhaps eventually we will see FPGA's into the mix, and then compiling a CPU instruction set with a heterogenous FPGA custom made instruction will make things faster. But I doubt it.

    Just like Itanium, these will turn out to be solutions looking for an answer. And in the end, answers to the wrong questions.

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  • Terr-E
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    Perhaps the sysadmin of hsafoundation.com is an avid Phoronix reader, Michael ?

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  • Michael
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    Originally posted by loganj View Post
    that site is working for me (http://www.hsafoundation.com/)
    Looks like they brought the site back online today...

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  • CochainComplex
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    The latest SAM or resizeable BAR reminds me of the HSA spirit. For me it sounds like Mantle it is dead but lives still in future products or ideas.

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  • ms178
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    Originally posted by loganj View Post
    that site is working for me (http://www.hsafoundation.com/)
    Aye, the website is up again. The last post is from 2018 however.

    I still would like to see all these accelerators and compute units working together more seamlessly in a single-source model which is also performance-portable across different implementations.

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  • uid313
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    Even if The HSA Foundation is dead, I think the idea lives on and perhaps will become more prominent. Nvidia is buying ARM from Softbank so they will be pushing hard for ARM and maybe for ARM in the cloud with Nvidia GPUs and maybe ARM with integrated GeForce graphics, so maybe even ARM on the desktop.

    Apple migrated from x86 to ARM and is rumored to be making a 64 core ARM CPU for their Mac Pro. Microsoft is improving Windows 10 and Windows 10X for ARM. Perhaps soon Intel and AMD will be tempted to leave x86 and come up with ARM CPUs too seeing how well Apple's new 64 core M12X processor will perform and seeing what Nvidia unfolds.

    AMD already had their ARM-based Zen processor internally that they cancelled, maybe they would want to resurrect that. Intel does have an ARM license since the old XScale days.

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  • loganj
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    that site is working for me (http://www.hsafoundation.com/)

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  • ms178
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    While the website was down before, it is quite telling that nothing came to light from their China Regional Committee. There were some reports about some workgroups long ago but we have never seen updated specs seeing the light of the day. I suppose the current political climate would make it toxic for US companies to follow-up on this anyway. So yes, I suppose HSA is on life support right now, if not dead already. Maybe SYCL, oneAPI or ROCm will take its place.

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