Ho.Lee.Chit. These Zen2 notebook parts are absolutely trouncing intel's finest. It's not even close. A 15w part hanging with (and beating) a 45w part is unheard of. While AMD has had success beating intel on the desktop in past generations (Athlon64, K7, K6) I don't think they've ever really been competitive in notebooks. Now they're not only competitive, they are dominating!! Yowsa! I'm willing to bet the onboard Vega graphics will kick butt too vs. intel UHD.
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Originally posted by timrichardson View PostOn these numbers, the AMD CPUs are an irresistible force. Apple will have to use them.
That being said, as Apple tends to do be cutting-edge WRT to technology, and will pick the right hardware to serve its needs, plus have the economic leverage to get what they want- that being said, have they ever used an AMD CPU since going X86?
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Originally posted by Adarion View PostI wish they would make better keyboards for laptops. At least there seem the be less glare and more IPS >1366x768 screens these days. But since a notebook is a mobile typewriter for me mainly (and maybe do some darktable and stuff) I really need a good keyboard (layout and key haptics).
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I find the 8550u vs 1065g7 results more interesting than the 4700u results. 4700u uses less power with 7nm so it clocks better and is faster... understood.
but, if I am reading results correctly, the 1065g7 is faster than the 8550 while clocking significantly lower. Makes me curious what intel could have been pulling off if the 10nm wasn't trash (at least back in 2019). And makes me wonder what these processors will be like if real. https://www.anandtech.com/show/15748...coming-midyear I'll probably still end up with a 4700u or 4800u. Unlikely the price on those cpus would be reasonable for me.
Originally posted by V1tol View Post45W is a lie . My 9750H does 45W only with turbo boost disabled (max 2.6)GHz and with undervolt -100mV. On stock it easily goes up to 80W according to "intel-undervolt measure" and of course hits 100 degrees in 3 seconds, despite notebook being a thick gaming brick with 2 fans doing 5000RPM.
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Originally posted by kcrudup View PostI couldn't care less about the "Intel vs. AMD" war- I've had both over time and most chipset decisions have been driven by availability, not politics.
That being said, as Apple tends to do be cutting-edge WRT to technology, and will pick the right hardware to serve its needs, plus have the economic leverage to get what they want- that being said, have they ever used an AMD CPU since going X86?
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Thank you VERY MUCH Michael for this article. I've waiting for new APU competition to come, and this is really interesting.
I'm impatient to see what it's worth for gaming. Although not sure yet if my next computer will be laptop or desktop, and if I wouldn't still be better waiting the the next generation of AMD APU which should come end of year if I'm not mistaken.
Also, if you could do a quick part on how "maintainable" this laptop is (access to battery? free RAM slot? things like that) because I bought a high-end MSI laptop and dearly regrets having let myself buy an "ultralight/ultrathin performance laptop" because everything is solded.
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