AMD Announcements From CES 2020: Ryzen 4000 Mobile Series, Radeon RX 5600 XT

What does any of this has to do with you wanting to load textures to RAM that are too high resolution to be rendered at the target display? It's not just diminishing returns. There's absolutely no returns: Only down sides. Bigger RAM means more lanes, power and cooling. Bigger textures than the target means you need to actively downscale the texture resolution.

All bitmap textures are too low in resolution if you look close enough. It's obvious that games are designed with more VRAM in mind these days, so it's disgusting that a manufacturer would design another DOA card, especially after the flop of lower end Turing cards from Nvidia struggling with high details at 1080p (which this card is supposed to do well).

[Mark Rose]

My GTX 1070 (6.5 TF) works fine at 4k for all the games I care about.

[c117152]

It's pretty hard to get to the point of diminishing returns. There's no excuse for putting so little VRAM in a GPU. I thought AMD wasn't playing the planned obsolescence game like Nvidia does, where they release new GPUs that can't even max out something as basic as textures in already released games.

What does any of this has to do with you wanting to load textures to RAM that are too high resolution to be rendered at the target display? It's not just diminishing returns. There's absolutely no returns: Only down sides. Bigger RAM means more lanes, power and cooling. Bigger textures than the target means you need to actively downscale the texture resolution.

[tildearrow]

It makes sense to expect it only if you are going to buy it. In terms of performance, isn't Radeon VII sufficient?

No, it isn't due to the older architecture (and hence older video coding block).

[nomadewolf]

Way too much in my opinion. It is configurable down to 12w tdp, but that's still twice the tdp of my current desktop, which is three years old. Come on AMD, you're practically forcing me to buy Intel again.

Twice the (announced) tdp, but everyone knows what tdp means to Intel...
Also, how many times more the performance for the tdp? And how much cheaper?
Those are also valid points.

[nomadewolf]

If only that six was an eight, I might care.

Or if that six was priced like a six ($160)... Then it might make sense...

[L_A_G]

It is interesting that in year 2015 the R9 390/390X (5 TFLOPS FP32) were considered to be 4K gaming cards, while in year 2020 the RX 5600 XT (7 TFLOPS FP32) is considered to be a 1080p gaming card.

The thing about graphics is that it's not just the resolution that goes up over time, you also get higher quality assets (higher poly models, higher res textures, etc.), new and higher quality effects, more objects on-screen at once and more expansive play areas (which require more assets to be constantly shifted in and out of memory).

Also, AMD's "4k" card back in 2015 was the Fury X with 8.6 TFLOPS FP32, not the warmed up R9 290 from two years earlier.

Way too much in my opinion. It is configurable down to 12w tdp, but that's still twice the tdp of my current desktop, which is three years old. Come on AMD, you're practically forcing me to buy Intel again.

Well considering this is not something in the Atom/i3-tier in terms of performance it's a bit much to expect it to be in within the same power envelope as something with a fraction of the performance. There's probably eventually going to be something like the embedded Ryzen APUs that you can find in the Smach Z handheld and Atari VCS console that'll be equivalent of Intel's stuff in that power envelope, but to expect an 8C/16T part within the power envelope of a thin client is unrealistic to say the least.

The maxed out textures are for 4k.

It's pretty hard to get to the point of diminishing returns. There's no excuse for putting so little VRAM in a GPU. I thought AMD wasn't playing the planned obsolescence game like Nvidia does, where they release new GPUs that can't even max out something as basic as textures in already released games.

[Slartifartblast]

Disappointing pricing for the 5600 XT, guess I'll wait until the summer when Nvidia releases Ampere and prices shift down.

[finalzone]

Still await for AMD Sensor Fusion HUB driver for mobile Raven Ridge and up. Vainly trying to find a patchwork location for testing.