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  • #41
    Well, here's something I never knew yet or paid attention to : PCIe is full duplex (from what I think I'm seeing on wikipedia)
    So, PCIe 8x should be great for the CPU sending commands, vertices, texture data etc. while video output travels the other way, without hurting much.

    Thunderbolt is full duplex too, it must be why an external GPU with display on the internal laptop monitor is usable at all (on e.g. the infamous macbook pro).
    There's still a performance penalty doing that but Thunderbolt is only PCIe 4x 3.0 i.e. half the bandwith in the Ryzen APU scenario.

    The question is, why would you use a Ryzen 2400G which is not a really great CPU with an nvidia GPU. It's far from bad yet, perhaps like an old i7 2600K (old in terms of years not performance obviously)
    I wonder if Zen 2 brings PCIe 4.0 to the AM4 socket. I think it definitely should, you'll get PCIe 3.0 in an old motherboard and PCIe 4.0 in a new motherboard.

    Ryzen 2400G, 2200G and the new Athlon are like the Ryzen 1000 series on performance (but with the finer monitoring/power management of Ryzen 2000 series, but with half the L3), so a Zen 2 APU (Ryzen 3000 series) has significant performance to gain. Thus a next-gen Ryzen APU + Nvidia GPU rig would be a rather weird thing to do but not completely nuts.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
      Did it? Because apart from some vocal minority none gives a shit.
      Lol, what? Did you forget about the part where a total remote takeover of the machine was possible (and easy) due to a flaw in ME? Most security outfits rightly rated that one as critical as intel scrambled for a fix.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by GrayShade View Post
        One thing I don't get is why the more expensive processors don't have integrated graphics. If I buy a Ryzen 7 or a Threadripper, I'd rather not pay $100 more for a GPU, assuming I'm not interested in gaming.
        Why $100? There are low end discrete GPU's available for as low as $35. You can buy a decent e-sports gaming card for $100.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by torsionbar28 View Post
          Lol, what? Did you forget about the part where a total remote takeover of the machine was possible (and easy) due to a flaw in ME? Most security outfits rightly rated that one as critical as intel scrambled for a fix.
          1. That particular case was a flaw in the AMT component of the ME (the remote control module) which is for vPro enabled devices and servers, the overwhelming majority of consumer devices are unaffected.

          2. I did not see at any point Intel sales plummeting, or PC review sites stopping their recommendation of Intel stuff because of security issues, or people actually using a PC even knowing what that is at all and deciding to go for AMD.

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