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  • #81
    Originally posted by cybertraveler View Post
    The sad thing is, that although he was wrong about that point I corrected, He's probably right about many other things. He seems like he might be knowledgeable. He's just unnecessarily verbally aggressive and can't handle it at all when he is wrong about something. He could be helping people understand stuff better if he got over those things.

    We all get things wrong. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Just make your corrections, learn and move on.
    Originally posted by Djhg2000 View Post
    Exactly. Aside from the insults clouding our judgment, there was a real opportunity of having a productive discussion to expand our perspective on both sides of the coin. It's easy to forget that insults tend to prompt an emotional response rather than a logical one, so for that reason I'm discontinuing my participation in this thread before we take it too far. My previous comment was close enough and I'd rather not continue on that path.
    Guys, in case you missed this, birdie is Artem Tashkinov who host list of outdate insults against GNU/Linux and FOSS community. He is, you know, this kind of person.

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    • #82
      I concede that I was overly aggressive, insulting and harsh in this topic but when people with zero security/IT background keep talking nonsense, yet have the insolence to argue with your factual reasoning, I lose temper and start calling names.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by chithanh View Post
        Good riddance, there was no contribution of value from you anyway.
        Originally posted by cybertraveler View Post
        You're just the rude guy on a technical forum insulting people and making illogical claims (the the bold claim quoted above).
        Originally posted by Djhg2000 View Post
        there was a real opportunity of having a productive discussion to expand our perspective on both sides of the coin
        This is how Artem would talk with you guys if he would answer via PM:



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        Cleaned up Google Translate:

        Originally posted by birdie View Post
        Dedicated to asshole

        I do not hide my name and nickname (https://github.com/birdie-github - oh, my god, my name is there; https://www.linux.org.ru/people/birdie/profile oh, my god , my name is there, and at least a dozen forums where the birdie = my name), and doxing, which you unsuccessfully took - the most filthy and low, what a person in the net is capable of.

        Shit under yourself further - you are doing very well; just do not delete that comment: let everyone see what shit you are.

        And if the list you are pointing at is such a mess, then write a refutation. Just do not crap yourself, because that's what you do.
        Doxing is impossible (by definition) if your name is below list I linked to, but this is probably too difficult concept for you.

        I just inform people so they don't waste their time.
        Last edited by RussianNeuroMancer; 30 August 2018, 06:55 AM.

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        • #84
          You keep behaving like the worst possible scum RussianNeuroMancer - no one has granted you the permission to quote private correspondence and that's exactly what you did along with trying to unsuccessfully discredit me. In fact in certain countries of the world leaking of private correspondence is considered a misdemeanor or even a crime. Luckily people here are above your lame shenanigans.

          If you have any resemblance of common sense and conscience it would be prudent to delete your last two posts in this thread because most people will be extremely disgusted by what you're doing but it's really up to you. However it surely looks like something is wrong with you you, so you can as well keep everything intact.

          I'm personally quite entertained. Keep it going!

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          • #85
            This is how you do it properly (obviously you've never had any manners, so the concept must be totally alien to you):

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            • #86
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              Originally posted by phoronix View Post
              Phoronix: A Global Switch To Kill Linux's CPU Spectre/Meltdown Workarounds?

              Something I have seen asked in our forums and elsewhere -- most recently on the kernel mailing list -- is whether there is a single kernel option that can be used for disabling all of the Spectre/Meltdown workarounds and any other performance-hurting CPU vulnerability workarounds...

              http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...p-Spectre-Melt
              Very useful, applied it to my laptop. Does the list of switches cover Foreshadow as well or simply there are no mitigation techniques implemented yet?

              How about the opposite - enable all Spectre/Meltdown/Foreshadow mitigation options? I'd like to enable them (to some extent, without killing HT) on my server.
              Last edited by TheGrave; 04 September 2018, 09:23 PM.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by birdie View Post
                This is how you do it properly (obviously you've never had any manners, so the concept must be totally alien to you):
                This is not exactly a novelty. Because that Intel was working on Adaptive-Sync/FreeSync support was already known to anyone who was up to date about developments in the Linux graphics stack:
                Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                Not sure who originally pushed back on upstreaming as AMD-only code but the focus for the last year has been on finding a cross-vendor solution. I believe the main participants have been Manasi from Intel plus some AMD folks.
                Only those Windows-only hardware reviewers who are generally not interested in anything Linux could have missed that. And that tech writer who actually questioned it, yikes.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by birdie View Post
                  In fact in certain countries of the world leaking of private correspondence is considered a misdemeanor or even a crime.
                  AFAIK publishing or forwarding private correspondence is a copyright violation in pretty much every country.
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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                    AFAIK publishing or forwarding private correspondence is a copyright violation in pretty much every country.
                    There is interesting opinion about this in another thread:
                    Originally posted by pal666 View Post
                    you are confusing private correspondence with private attacks

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by bridgman View Post

                      AFAIK publishing or forwarding private correspondence is a copyright violation in pretty much every country.
                      I don't think that a bunch of insults will surpass the treshold of originality.

                      Btw it's funny when this guy accuses that "people with zero security/IT background keep talking nonsense", when that's what he himself does (no, a sysadmin is not a software developer let alone a security specialist).

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