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Four Years After Launch, AMD Kaveri Sees Huge Performance Boost On Linux

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by ElectricPrism View Post
    Open drivers easily double a hardware's lifespan...
    Lifespan deserve and should be prolonged because initially open drivers were and are in not so ideal shape.

    So, problem is that open drivers were and still are usually and sometimes severely borked in their prime time That is a main joke bucause that is also period of time when hardware have most sense to be used

    If open have perfect execution and if countinosly in line with hardware launches, that would be also perfect killer... but in reallity it is not like that.

    Instead to serve prime time, they are powered by prime time Just model of development is different.
    Last edited by dungeon; 15 May 2018, 02:20 AM.

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  • ElectricPrism
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    This is why open drivers rocks, instead of companies trying to push for EOL and planned obsoleteness the software can be improved on if there is room for improvement.

    This type of real world benefit builds brand loyalty -- 9 times out of 10 I now make buying decisions based on the long term quality of a product, the most comparable thing that comes to mind is solid wood furniture -- if it gets damaged usually you can sand and refinish it no problem and have it last decades.

    Open drivers easily double a hardware's lifespan and really concrete brand loyalty after consumers have a good experience.

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  • chimpy
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    So will this also speed up my Carrizo (a10 8700p) laptop since it has similar graphics?

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    I'm sure I don't need to point out that Ryzen Pro (CPU/APU) and Radeon Pro (dGPU) are different brands aimed at different markets (Commercial vs 3D/CAD workstation)
    On Linux, but on Windows is not like that. There is no such artifical separation there. Or If that is not true then you are not sure so better talk to your marketing team, as i don't see any VS there

    Ryzen PRO processors are designed to meet the fast-changing requirements of today’s business PC users, including both commercial workloads and rich multimedia capabilities that are becoming more typical as the traditional boundaries between work and personal computing merge. Offering desktop-class performance in an ultrathin notebook2 , the AMD Ryzen™ 7 PRO 2700U offers more system performance than the competition3 and up to 16 hours of battery life to enable all-day productivity1. In desktop, the AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 2400G and AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 2200G delivers world-class performance on heavily graphics-intensive commercial and workstation-grade workloads ranging from graphics design to 3D CAD to medical imaging, while also excelling at general office productivity tasks4,5.
    and that you don't need to run Radeon Pro drivers on Ryzen Pro APUs.
    So you have decided how Linux user of PRO APUs, does not need to run workstation workloads

    Better say 'might not need' or the best just learn to say clear 'No'. 'No' is easy, everbody understand that

    BTW, what are Radeon Pro drivers now? Do AMD have any plans to stop renaming things?
    Last edited by dungeon; 15 May 2018, 12:54 AM.

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  • bridgman
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    I'm sure I don't need to point out that Ryzen Pro (CPU/APU) and Radeon Pro (dGPU) are different brands aimed at different markets (Commercial vs 3D/CAD workstation), and that you don't need to run Radeon Pro drivers on Ryzen Pro APUs.

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by anarki2 View Post
    year of the Linux desktop. Your HW will get great support.... about the time it gets deprecated :-)
    Let alone that Desktop year, It is harder nowdays to be be even Year of the Linux Enterprise - this is something also called Corporate Desktop

    AMD today launching various Ryzen PRO APUs:

    https://www.amd.com/en-us/press-rele...2018may14.aspx

    When it comes to Linux, just don't ask where a drivers are as PRO driver does not support APUs
    Last edited by dungeon; 14 May 2018, 09:52 PM.

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  • dungeon
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    He, he, FGLRX was always faster on GCN 1.1 APUs and this is probably a major reason why

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  • Brophen
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    Originally posted by Mez' View Post
    I have an A10-7860K APU that I topped with a RX560 (4Gb though) when I found the money. Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't try the Kaveri GPU bit again to check which one is best...
    Unless there's a way to use both as a muxless system such as vgaswitcheroo in a laptop? That would definitely save some energy.
    I still daydream of a day when my computer can tell which GPU is ideal for which task and divvy up the tasks that way. I have an A10-7850k paired with a GTX 1060. I don't see that happening though, multigpu doesn't seem to be a priority for anybody

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  • bridgman
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    The 560 is probably still 2x as fast as the Kaveri, even with the latest updates. My guess would be a bit over 2x due to faster/more VRAM.

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  • Mez'
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    I have an A10-7860K APU that I topped with a RX560 (4Gb though) when I found the money. Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't try the Kaveri GPU bit again to check which one is best...
    Unless there's a way to use both as a muxless system such as vgaswitcheroo in a laptop? That would definitely save some energy.

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