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  • midix
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    Nice benchmarks, but not much surprises.
    Someone might want to test something newer and more powerful from Orange Pi. For example, Orange Pi Prime with its H5 processor. Or even something with H6, although that's not very well supported yet in Armbian.
    Also, for those in Europe, the price of Orange Pi Prime is lower than RPi3+, especially considering VAT and shipping, because shipping from China is much cheaper (sometimes even free).

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  • morydris
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    Originally posted by wizard69 View Post
    Thanks for the continued interest in ARM boards! Sadly this doesn't look like the new board i was hoping for. The years old Odroid C2 remains a better board, this is especially frustrating know how rapid the world of ARM application processors is improving.
    I'm very happy with my C2, but my 32-bit octacore XU4 is even faster. It's a pretty amazing board. (I don't actually need 64-bit, even the C2 has only 2 GiB DRAM).

    I love alternatives, but the only thing the RPi3+ has going for me is the community. The XU4/C2 has eMMC, more memory, faster performance, and faster networking.

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by coder View Post
    Calling it "made up" is the problem.
    We can always choose another term there, but calling something native and via gen2, which is neither native nor gen2 is an even greater problem, that to me is not only a problem but total missinformation. And now these quasi-SATA3 ports of course performs like SATA 1.5 to 2, i am not surprised

    2 x SATA3 port, native SATA implementation via PCIe-gen2 to SATA3 interface
    Last edited by dungeon; 03-27-2018, 01:33 AM.

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post
    Hm, It is not "mine dismissal of SATA" it is norm that SATA is missing there Users might be interested to know it is made up, as i am.
    Calling it "made up" is the problem. Whether or not it's an integrated SoC feature is basically irrelevant (beyond the issue of drivers, I suppose). The only particularly relevant fact is how fast it runs.

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by coder View Post
    So, no. I reject your dismissal of SATA. If it's a feature you don't want and won't use, then it's useless to you.
    Hm, It is not "mine dismissal of SATA" it is norm that SATA is missing there Users might be interested to know it is made up, as i am.

    However, please don't try to decide for me which features I should value.
    I am not trying to decide what you should value, i just gave here more info

    WTF? It doesn't need to be native - just well-implemented.
    Well-enough-wired-up to what, to short older rev PCIE? That is like "implementing" Vulkan to Radeon R600 with fallbacks You mean, added or well-enough-wiredup If SoC have room for real SATA speeds, it would likely already be native.
    Last edited by dungeon; 03-26-2018, 01:08 AM.

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by chimpy View Post
    above 100 bucks I have to agree that people should just go for x86
    Okay, so I have to go from spending $99 to spending $169 for the cheapest Apollo Lake UP Board? I just don't understand this logic. Why are you artificially capping ARM at $100?

    I agree that $100 is one of the sweet spots, in the commodity SBC market. But there are features for which I would pay more, such as higher CPU performance, lower power, bigger GPU, faster I/O, RAM capacity/speed/ECC, EMMC capacity/speed, etc.

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post
    Basically do not expect full speed on these SATAs especially with SSD
    If that was your point, you should've just said so.

    I didn't know that, but I'd still take it over USB3 -> SATA.

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post
    Well, SoC itself does not support SATA natively - so it is normal that SATA is missing:

    http://opensource.rock-chips.com/wiki_RK3399

    If somebody have SATA there, that is kind of "an extra made up feature"
    WTF? It doesn't need to be native - just well-implemented. If I want SATA (and I do), then it's of value to me that their board has it. Sure, one could plug in a controller to the Pine's PCIe slot (and no, I don't want garbage USB -> SATA adapters), but that's ugly, would limit case options, and would make up much of the difference in price.

    So, no. I reject your dismissal of SATA. If it's a feature you don't want and won't use, then it's useless to you. However, please don't try to decide for me which features I should value.

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by willmore View Post

    What do you mean about that? Look at the N1, it has two SATA ports. How is that made up?
    It is made up or to say wired up SATA via PCIE x1, controled by additional ASMedia's SATA controler, this one:

    http://www.asmedia.com.tw/eng/e_show...s.php?item=118

    If SoC itself have native SATA support, you would see it on all RK3399 based boards as if native that is just a matter of exposing connectors

    In theory ASM1061 got you x1 PCI Express to two ports of Serial ATA at max SATA speeds, problem is RK3399 specs of PCIE x1 are not really of full speed rev 2 but rev 1.2 i think - so these SATA wired up connectors are expected to not work at full speed, might reach something in range of average USB3 and that is it.

    Basically do not expect full speed on these SATAs especially with SSD

    https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=149&t=30307

    Imagine speed of 2.5" USB3 HDD, that is kind of cap there for HDD. Or to say, SSD might be about double faster there than USB3 HDD, won't be 3-5 times faster
    Last edited by dungeon; 03-25-2018, 10:53 PM.

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  • willmore
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post
    If somebody have SATA there, that is kind of "an extra made up feature"
    What do you mean about that? Look at the N1, it has two SATA ports. How is that made up?

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