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  • duby229
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post

    I don't care again really There are thousands drivers and their names just in a kernel alone and i don't really care about their names, since their authors can rename these any day and i don't care about that too

    Linux kernel is just a kernel, who cares about drivers really Yes there are a lot of these and we all care, but who cares really when you don't as i user never use vast majority of these drivers.
    I get it, ignorant and proud of it. You should have just said that in your first post here so I could have ignored you. But you know, if you don't care to know, then you're not gonna know. Insisting that you're right on this when you've already admitted that you don't know and don't care to know is fairly wrong.

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by duby229 View Post
    Well, at least I can feel confident knowing anybody can read this and see how ignorant you are. I did try though.....
    I don't care again really There are thousands drivers and their names just in a kernel alone and i don't really care about their names, since their authors can rename these any day and i don't care about that too

    Linux kernel is just a kernel, who cares about drivers really Yes there are a lot of these and we all care, but who cares really when you don't as i user never use vast majority of these drivers.

    Do you think i need to know names of all thousands of drivers there for some reason? Nope, i don't care
    Last edited by dungeon; 01-24-2018, 02:08 AM.

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  • duby229
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post

    And who care about that, i don't. You can rename that any other day and what, i wouldn't care again.



    So what? it is amdgpu driver suite again.



    So what? Brian Paul might rename Mesa any day, AMD could rename these drivers inside project any day... so who cares



    Ha, ha, you are crazy
    Well, at least I can feel confident knowing anybody can read this and see how ignorant you are. I did try though.....


    ig·no·rant
    ˈiɡnərənt/
    adjective

    lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular.

    "they were ignorant of astronomy"
    synonyms: without knowledge of, unaware of, unconscious of, oblivious to, incognizant of, unfamiliar with, unacquainted with, uninformed about, ill-informed about, unenlightened about, unconversant with, inexperienced in/with, naive about, green about
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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by duby229 View Post
    Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Radeonsi is the OpenGL driver and Radv is the Vulkan driver.
    And who care about that, i don't. You can rename that any other day and what, i wouldn't care again.

    That is how it is. Whether you like it or not.
    So what? it is amdgpu driver suite again.

    They are both part of mesa and that is where multithreading optimization takes place.
    So what? Brian Paul might rename Mesa any day, AMD could rename these drivers inside project any day... so who cares

    It doesn't have nothing to do with amdgpu at all.
    Ha, ha, you are crazy

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  • duby229
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post

    I know, but i don't care call it as you like, rename it if you wish... fork whatever you want any other day i don't care about that too

    Fork your brain too, otherwise please try to focus on anything, can you? When i say nvidia driver i think of its entire suite and when i say amdgpu i think of its entire driver suite represented here, blah, blah .
    Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Radeonsi is the OpenGL driver and Radv is the Vulkan driver. That is how it is. Whether you like it or not. They are both part of mesa and that is where multithreading optimization takes place. It has nothing to do with amdgpu at all.

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by duby229 View Post
    Ok, so you know amdgpu is a kernel driver right?
    I know, but i don't care call it as you like, rename it if you wish... fork whatever you want any other day i don't care about that too

    Fork your brain too, otherwise please try to focus on anything, can you? When i say nvidia driver i think of its entire suite and when i say amdgpu i think of its entire driver suite represented here, blah, blah .

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  • duby229
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post

    I agree, you don't think
    Ok, so you know amdgpu is a kernel driver right? Mesa is where this performance bottleneck is and it's most likely due to less effective multithreading optimization.

    edit: It did -not- scale down, that Pentium is faster than that Ryzen. And the difference in performance correlates with the difference in hardware.
    Last edited by duby229; 01-24-2018, 01:36 AM.

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by duby229 View Post

    It did -NOT- scale down. That Ryzen is slower than that Pentium. That's what you're seeing. That Pentium has a higher clock speed and slightly higher IPC. The differences in FPS correlate with the actual difference in performance roughly.

    IF it was exactly the same CPU between those results I would totally agree with you, but they aren't the same and the differences in the benchmarks correlate with the differences in hardware.

    EDIT: I don't think it has anything to do with amdgpu, it most likely has to do with mesa not optimizing for multithreading as effectively as nvidia's driver does.
    I agree, you don't think As it has everything to do with amdgpu driver suite here, which scale down unlike nvidia driver suite which constantly scale up
    Last edited by dungeon; 01-24-2018, 01:35 AM.

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  • duby229
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post

    Please forget about CPUs, put an ARM CPU there and test cards if you want does not matter and I don't care really which one CPU is better here I only talk about GPU drivers diff here and this test is more than enough to me.
    You do realize that GPU drivers run on a CPU right? That faster CPU's run code faster right?

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by duby229 View Post
    If Michael had more equally matched CPU's to compare I think you'd see. The AMD Ryzen does not have the same number of cores or the same clock or the same IPC. If you doubled the number of cores on that Pentium then it would be faster than that Ryzen even with the AMD cards.
    Please forget about CPUs, put an ARM CPU there and test cards if you want does not matter and I don't care really which one CPU is better here I only talk about GPU drivers diff here and this test is more than enough to me.
    Last edited by dungeon; 01-24-2018, 01:26 AM.

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