AMD Reportedly Allows Disabling PSP Secure Processor With Latest AGESA

[artivision]

And this would change the situation how?

A system without PSP (bought by a conscious user) wouldn't be able to browse the internet just as a system with PSP AND the same conscious user that decides to NOT use that system to browse the internet.

The only way to fight DRM is not buying/supporting the media needing it, thus removing the need for DRM in the first place. "voting with your wallet" and all that.

This assuming that most people aren't flabbergasting morons biting any bait, which is not the case, whatever we do the mass market will bite the full bait and pull us with them anyway.

Hardcoded DRM will vanish if there isn't support hardware, so a system without PSP will be able to access any platform.

[ssokolow]

What again is odd. Following that logic, car manufacturers should call the car's engine "horse" in order not to confuse customers...

Why do you think the Brits call flashlights "torches".

[SystemCrasher]

Isn't this AGESA thing a dubious shady BLOB on it's own? So what do we have? One shady closed-source BLOB would pretend it has deactivated yet another shady backdoor BLOB. Sounds really trustworthy, any day. Not to mention whole prorietary UEFI things are hardly anyhow better than PSP, being more or less treacherous malware junk.

[SystemCrasher]

Why do you think the Brits call flashlights "torches".

Lol, that reminds me... many ppl are still using "hp" when they refer to engine performance, instead of more logical units like watts, which are mostly used by engineers. Sometimes it gets even worse. Say, imperial length units are so freakin' cool. Merely computing sum of two lengths would take like half dozen of shifts between units and numerical bases involved.

[deusexmachina]

Exactly what DrYak said. I've seen so much support and no good reasons not to... Strange AMD hasn't made an official response. Need to keep pressure on them to release their code. Would be good for their profits, too.

[deusexmachina]

And this would change the situation how?

A system without PSP (bought by a conscious user) wouldn't be able to browse the internet just as a system with PSP AND the same conscious user that decides to NOT use that system to browse the internet.

The only way to fight DRM is not buying/supporting the media needing it, thus removing the need for DRM in the first place. "voting with your wallet" and all that.

This assuming that most people aren't flabbergasting morons biting any bait, which is not the case, whatever we do the mass market will bite the full bait and pull us with them anyway.

You can't browse the internet without PSP? Sounds ridiculous... Websites are getting access to the core of your CPU? Now that's a security issue (if it were true)...

Anyone figure out a way to disable PSP on AMD YET?

[ssokolow]

You can't browse the internet without PSP? Sounds ridiculous... Websites are getting access to the core of your CPU? Now that's a security issue (if it were true)...

Anyone figure out a way to disable PSP on AMD YET?

Probably talking about how DRM like HTML EME is intended to delegate decryption to the ME or PSP to ensure you can't get access to the decrypted data during the interval before it gets wrapped in HDCP.

[deusexmachina]

Probably talking about how DRM like HTML EME is intended to delegate decryption to the ME or PSP to ensure you can't get access to the decrypted data during the interval before it gets wrapped in HDCP.

If there are really websites I would not be able to visit right now without PSP running in my CPU, then I'm happy not to be able to... But I doubt they exist.

[ssokolow]

If there are really websites I would not be able to visit right now without PSP running in my CPU, then I'm happy not to be able to... But I doubt they exist.

Oh, I agree... but I believe it's currently limited to DRMed video streaming like NetFlix.

[deusexmachina]

Oh, I agree... but I believe it's currently limited to DRMed video streaming like NetFlix.

Right, "so if you don't buy our chips with a backdoor, then you can't watch literal child porn on NetFlix..." Great!