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  • #61
    Originally posted by make_adobe_on_Linux! View Post
    You can't browse the internet without PSP?
    it was a tangent where someone else claimed that websites would need it https://www.phoronix.com/forums/foru...243#post994243
    And I just expanded a bit on his statement to point out that voluntarily removing a feature you don't like does not change the rest of the world.

    So in his hypothetical world where webpages are using DRM too, a device without a functional PSP would be as useless to browse the internet as a PSP-using device where the user has decided to dedicate for offline-only work.

    Sounds ridiculous... Websites are getting access to the core of your CPU?
    It's called "security coprocessor" and yes it's supposed to provide DRM capabilities for that.

    The web standards allow that https://arstechnica.com/information-...-not-a-defeat/ it is a thing for various paid video services, not just Netflix.

    It will eventually be a thing once websites get fed up of people adblocking the hell out of them, the framework allows to DRM webpages as well as anything else.

    It's also used by other software, as part of DRM protections as well.

    Right, "so if you don't buy our chips with a backdoor, then you can't watch literal child porn on NetFlix..." Great!
    Lol, if you watch that movie expecting it's child porn you will be sorely disappointed, most of the screen time is actually just a normal black girl's life and the clash between her family's "old school" african immigrant values (not great) and the modern western society where you must be provocative (also not great).
    When she goes for the "little lapdancer" route to increase her group's popularity, the other young girls in the dancing team oppose her, literally tell her they didn't want their dance group to look like prostitutes, and boot her out.

    But of course, it shows 5 minutes of minors dancing like every young teen has been doing on TikTok for years by just copying the moves from famous pop stars to attract other male minors, must be child porn and everyone should take torches and pitchforks. What a joke.

    All in all, all this "outrage" only caused a massive Streisand Effect, and even people that didn't usually care about the genre did at least have a look at what is a mostly boring "coming of age" movie about a teenage black girl in a french "ghetto".
    Last edited by starshipeleven; 12 November 2020, 03:10 PM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
      Lol, if you watch that movie expecting it's child porn you will be sorely disappointed, most of the screen time is actually just a normal black girl's life and the clash between her family's "old school" african immigrant values (not great) and the modern western society where you must be provocative (also not great).
      When she goes for the "little lapdancer" route to increase her group's popularity, the other young girls in the dancing team oppose her, literally tell her they didn't want their dance group to look like prostitutes, and boot her out.

      But of course, it shows 5 minutes of minors dancing like every young teen has been doing on TikTok for years by just copying the moves from famous pop stars to attract other male minors, must be child porn and everyone should take torches and pitchforks. What a joke.

      All in all, all this "outrage" only caused a massive Streisand Effect, and even people that didn't usually care about the genre did at least have a look at what is a mostly boring "coming of age" movie about a teenage black girl in a french "ghetto".
      Normalization clearly successful. Fortunately there is a massive movement of people building quality communities that will be much more effective against child abuse & degeneracy.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by make_adobe_on_Linux! View Post
        Fortunately there is a massive movement of people building quality communities that will be much more effective against child abuse & degeneracy.
        Lol, "quality communities" where nobody talks of hard topics with kids, so they are defenseless when they actually face the issue in the real world, and learn how to socialize from porn and pop stars, with predictable results. You are part of the problem, not its solution.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
          Lol, "quality communities" where nobody talks of hard topics with kids, so they are defenseless when they actually face the issue in the real world, and learn how to socialize from porn and pop stars, with predictable results. You are part of the problem, not its solution.
          I'm the problem? Really? Added to the list: starshipeleven thinks DRM & NetFlix's "Cuties" are both reasonable... And I am the problem.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by make_adobe_on_Linux! View Post
            I'm the problem? Really?
            Yes, because you have judged a whole movie by a couple scenes, and you got played like a musical instrument by Netflix to signal boost a movie that is ok but overall not as big or important. They are not dumb, they wanted it to blow up, that's why they made a "special" poster for it. The original poster (not made by Netflix) wouldn't have made any impression and the movie would have passed without firing a shot.

            If you get played so easily, your young ones will play you just as well to avoid any silly rule or restriction, and since you didn't teach them how to deal with the world, but instead relied on isolating yourself and them from it, they will have more issues when they inevitably interact with it. I speak from experience on this, I was a kid once.


            starshipeleven thinks DRM & NetFlix's "Cuties" are both reasonable...
            Hey that's offensive. I never said DRM is reasonable, I just explained how it works.

            Also this isn't "Netflix's" movie, you heathen. It's an independent French movie that Netflix distributed in the US, it's written and directed by a (french) "strong and independent black woman", Maïmouna Doucouré, and was at least in part financed by French national subsidies to arts and cultural stuff, so it had to pass some basic vetting process.

            This movie has won some awards and nominations in EU independent film festivals like the Sundance.

            But no, they are all seedy rapscallions of course, trying to corrupt your youngins and steal yo' wimmins.

            I've seen enough weird movies from france and sweden/norway/finland/whatever, with kid actors or not, this isn't outside of the ordinary for them. It's actually closer to what real life is, most movies from the US only deal in pre-packaged plots with pre-constructed stereotypes.

            Maybe also because I live in the EU so it's closer to my nation's culture.
            Last edited by starshipeleven; 03 January 2021, 12:30 PM.

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            • #66
              Right, you're into sexualizing children and I'm not - therefore I've been fooled? Mental gymnastic galore. You have no argument. You can say morality doesn't exist - but you're on here talking about what you see as good, so you're just re-labeling morality and using circular reasoning. Or you can say morality does exist and you just have a clearer picture of it, but then you're wrong again.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by make_adobe_on_Linux! View Post
                Right, you're into sexualizing children and I'm not - therefore I've been fooled?
                No I (and a lot of film critics in the EU, as I said it won awards and got nominations) have a more objective view and given the context (that you have missed), that's a realistic depiction of what happens to teenagers in the current day.

                I said you have been fooled because people like you is responsible for giving a MASSIVE publicity boost to a movie you strongly disagree with, that's why I said you've been fooled. Ever heard of Steisand Effect? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect That's exactly how you got played

                Has the movie been blocked? No it didn't. Netflix got sued in Texas or something but it's going nowhere and that's it. Did it receive a massive amount of free publicity? Yes it did.

                So what's the net effect? You helped diffusion of a movie that "sexualizes children" in your opinion. GG guys, well done. If this is how well you "protect the children", you are not that good at it, methinks

                You have no argument.
                Yes I have, you are just choosing to not see it because you have no way to prove me wrong.

                You can say morality doesn't exist
                but why

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