Lenovo UEFI Only Wants To Boot Windows, RHEL

[blackiwid]

And at last i am able to boot the fucking thing properly. All i had to do was create a fake Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi file to my EFI partition.

So is that another problem not related to secure boot or why can u not disable secure boot? is there no such option?

[AJSB]

Here's something funny.

I got something similar on the Intel motherboard i have. Yes that intel The FOSS loving, Linux hacker employing, incompetent moron firmware engineer employing, "we dont support linux on this motherboard", "we dont support adding entries to the boot menu" Intel.

And at last i am able to boot the fucking thing properly. All i had to do was create a fake Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi file to my EFI partition.

Fucking morons.


I don't think i will ever purchase another fucking thing from intel for the rest of my life.

LOL....but please do tell details....my rig uses a regular BIOS and when the time comes, i want to be ready to bypass that crap....

[89c51]

Here's something funny.

I got something similar on the Intel motherboard i have. Yes that intel The FOSS loving, Linux hacker employing, incompetent moron firmware engineer employing, "we dont support linux on this motherboard", "we dont support adding entries to the boot menu" Intel.

And at last i am able to boot the fucking thing properly. All i had to do was create a fake Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi file to my EFI partition.

Fucking morons.


I don't think i will ever purchase another fucking thing from intel for the rest of my life.

[blackiwid]

No, but on the other hand, only a complete tool thinks that stupid shit like that happens because of some on-high corporate policy and not just because of an incompetent programmer who didn't think through what he was doing and half-ass fixed some other bug or misinterpreted spec.

The classic corollary to Occam's Razor always holds true: never ascribe to malevolence that which can be explained by stupidity.

Yes you are right, not lenovo wants to remove support for linux, BUT Microsoft and co is clever enough to know that such bugs will happen all the time, and they know that bugs that hits the bigger ones in this case microsoft get fixed soon, they dont even care if one oem would have to take back 1mio laptops and destroy them... but it will cause way way more problems for linux or even worse some small linux projekts. So the walls get bigger to start some small stuff... its like what we have in germany each company have to be member of a monopolistic lobby-group. You must be member of this company if you make a company. So this lobby-group are totaly organanised by the big players, its like EU where we talk about democracy and then only Germany says what will happen. but even worse in eu theoreticaly the other countries could stop such stuff in this case they cannot not even theoreticly. So what do the big players make, they say each company have to pay at lest 10 trillion euros forced fee to be forced member of this lobby group. the lobby group makes then in the politic only stuff for the big companies + some small stuff for the small ones so its not tooo clear what they do. Why do they do this, you would say they have to pay 10 trillions too the big players, yes but for a big company this 10 trillions are 0.0001 % of their income and for the small ones its 50% of their income. So they can hinder that to much new companys come to the market. We call this "handelskammer" or something like that. "Verb?nde"

And the other more IT-ish example is the bios-power-management stuff, but there it was not only broken by made to complicate so that it gave calculated problems with linux because of bad hardware-designers. there we have the emails that tell us that it was designed to explizitily not work under linux without extreme man-power. Haloween-documents.

So if that was a practic that was used against linux, I rethink my statement that you are right, even it would be bad enough that they calculate and only make this useless feature to create problems for the small companies. why should they actively worked to make powermanagement unusable under non-windows-os, why should they not do the same with the windows-only-boot-security-system.


UPDATE:

I googled it, what I meaned about ACPI, it was not in the halloween documents but there are documents:

http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03020.pdf

So in this time the head of microsoft tries to figur out if its technicaly possible to make acpi windows-only like as much as possible, he does there not ask if it would be legaly ok or something like that, he does not care about that. So and when we see how well acpi works with microsoft and how bad it works under linux (its better than it was but its still not working with all computers) it seems he suceeded.

Its like somebody says on facebook I will run amok tomorow in the school xy... then 1 day later somebody did run amok there, 10 dead people are there, the offendor gets away without seeing getting seen from somebody who survived. And the facebook poster has no alliby. I think that facebook poster would have some problems... and if its even known that he is good with weapons (seems to have the knowledge and abilitys to do this) I think he would become heavy problems, would get quetions 48hours or so... why again did this not happen with bill gates? ok it did not happen because money making is a good thing no matter how... even if you kill people for that. but it seems it happend before, so I cannot agree that you have to be a tool to belive they do it here again.

But again even if I and others are here conspiracy theorizer, its clear that they at least know that developers make much much bugs and they will profitate from this bugs because windows-related bugs get fixed faster or even gets fixed while some low-user-linuxdistri problems gets slow or even not at all fixed. So they did win... not to mention they many manhours smaller companies / users have to invest to get it working at all even on non-buggy implementations... thats easier to manage for microsoft too.

[amehaye]

Certified hardware

Make sure that you only buy hardware which is certified to run Linux:

http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/ - pre-assembled hardware
http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/ - individual components

[mmrezaie]

stop buying!

I have bought only thinkpad as my computer since forever. If I see this problem stays I will stop buying from them in an instance. This is something even redhat mentioned in their bootloader seminars a lot.

[enrico.tagliavini]

Phoronix: Lenovo UEFI Only Wants To Boot Windows, RHEL

It turns out that for at least one of Lenovo's computer models, their UEFI implementation is explicitly checking for Windows or Red Hat Enterprise Linux and refusing to boot the UEFI-installed system if neither operating system is reported...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTIyOTg

I used to be a Lenovo customer for my laptops in the last years. Well this is a very bad move Lenovo. Even thinking such a limitation is a bad sign. Implementing it is simply unacceptable. I'm not going to buy any more Lenovo, if I don't see some more interest in GNU/Linux. For example some help developing a SMAPI driver would be very very appreciated.

[necro-lover]

No, ToS is not law, corporations don't have such power, yet. They can terminate your service, but they can't take you to court, not even in America over such trivial thing. Decompilation and reverse-engineering is illegal because of DMCA, not because of EULAs.

The power to destroy a digital life by terminate the service is in fact the power of justice because its destroy your social contacts.

Messing with telephone networks is illegal in most jurisdictions, but that's logical as they're used for emergency services. Besides, don't you have pre-paid cards in Germany?

I did not mean hack the " telephone networks" I mean the case pre-paid sim-card. But its against the law in Germany to use a card with wrong personal data in use to do the registration.

In Germany there is no anonymous sim-card.

[Kano]

I am not fully convinced that the firmware checks for the label (-L) and not for the loader (-l). I know asus firmware that removes all duplicates (only latest one is kept with same loader). The same firmware removes every entry if the hd is disconnected but searches for the Windows loader and add those by default. Ether way it should be simple to fake the loader name or the label to boot what you want, a bit uncommon however. At least you have got full access live as the default boot path seems to be working fine.

[tomato]

Are you sure that you don't break the law by doing this?

No, ToS is not law, corporations don't have such power, yet. They can terminate your service, but they can't take you to court, not even in America over such trivial thing. Decompilation and reverse-engineering is illegal because of DMCA, not because of EULAs.

Another problem is company?s like facebook start to check the account identity by mTAN and in Germany this force you to break laws if you want to protect your privacy and anonymity against facebook. Because you need to fake a handy-sim card with wrong personal data and this alone is against the law in Germany.

Messing with telephone networks is illegal in most jurisdictions, but that's logical as they're used for emergency services. Besides, don't you have pre-paid cards in Germany?