[DB] BIOS - ACPI - data collecting

Adarion replied

11-14-2011, 06:08 PM
Well, I don't know exactly what the lfk tests, but maybe there are also tests for disassembling recomp. the DSDT or things that are influenced by the implementation of the DSDT.
And since Microsoft's compiler produces faulty code (I call it intention) non-Windows systems will have problems with that tables since they deviate from specifications. So they need a lot of workarounds. Of course Windows knows about these "shortcomings" of their compiler and will work perfectly with these things. I find it rather interesting to see which compiler was used in that context.
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whitecat replied

11-14-2011, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Adarion View Post

Why?
Yes, some things were strange like Acer writing their own id over all fields, but still a DSDT compiled with "MSFT" might give you a hint how things might work out (or not).

In fact I do not see any correlation between the ACPI compiler used and the ftk3 results.
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Adarion replied

11-14-2011, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by whitecat View Post

Nevertheless, given what have been told here, I will create a new datasheet with this new firmware kit, since its results are probably more accurate.

Well, please keep in mind that is has some experimental tests and some fail probably on every machine. So "failure" is in that case not a problem of the very machine it is tested on. Also things like "fan could not be read" is useless on a fanless, silent system without any fan at all. In my case I just ran all tests out of curiosity. I should still have the full logs and dumps around here.

After all the question is: Would it be fair to compare machines when we used "different" "benchmarks"? (different in "" cause fwts is based on LFK anyway)

Originally posted by whitecat View Post

Also, I will no more include the ACPI compiler ID. Given all the data we already have, I don't think this information is finally worth noting.

Why?
Yes, some things were strange like Acer writing their own id over all fields, but still a DSDT compiled with "MSFT" might give you a hint how things might work out (or not). If you need support entering data I might offer it.

FWTS it is a package in Ubuntu so people might check even without any boot media and hopefully there will be some development.
Interesting to read from the blog entry of the main developer:
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/%7Ecking/pr...s-overview.odp
gives an overview over FWTS.

Though on
https://launchpad.net/fwts
I just found a recent version
Version 0.23.25 uploaded on 2011-10-11
so Deb/Ubuntu users can probably just apt-get it.
webgit here
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=cking/fwts/.git

As soon as I find the time I'll try to check out a more recent version. I was using the live distribution on a CFDisk which included it but in an older version. That was good since I didn't have an installed Linux available on all the tested machines.

Small addition to my M4A78-E:
there was a "wrong checksum" error during acpidump and it is "just" Socket AM2+ (which can also fit an AM3 nicely)
Bios is v 2511

I'm still fighting with a few ooolder machines to get something booted there. (Without freezing the machine.) Either they don't like USB-Boots or the CD with LFK 3 froze the system during kernel bootup.

Oh, and does anybody know how to fix a DSDT?

There was once a collection of them on a SF project but that was about dead last time I checked. I mean, wouldn't it be awesome to have some database with fixed ACPI tables so users could download them and hand them to their Kernel at boot time? (Or even, if that is legally possible to have known to be good tables right in the kernel?)
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whitecat replied

11-14-2011, 03:44 PM
I will update the last posts soon.

Nevertheless, given what have been told here, I will create a new datasheet with this new firmware kit, since its results are probably more accurate.

Also, I will no more include the ACPI compiler ID. Given all the data we already have, I don't think this information is finally worth noting.

I will update the first post of the topic in these ways.
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edmon replied

11-13-2011, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by edmon View Post

I'll get a dump using the Intel CD later

i have some problems using firmwarekit-r3.iso
so i tried ubuntu fwts:
http://pastebin.com/6Cymkm7k
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edmon replied

11-13-2011, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by edmon View Post

I'll get a dump using the Intel CD later

i have some problems using firmwarekit-r3.iso
so i tried ubuntu fwts:

http://pastebin.com/XuaExZL8
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Adarion replied

11-11-2011, 03:13 PM

And the next machine on the same evening was a (total overkill for the purpose...)

Acer Aspire 5950g (i7-2630QM and a big radeon chip, omg. The guy ain't doing much more than typing on that machine...)

Tables:

Code:

Signature Length Revision  OemId     OemTableId   OemRevision CompilerId CompilerRevision

    DSDT   41377     01    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00000000    "1025"     00040000
    FACS      64
    FACP     244     04    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00000001    "1025"     00040000
    ASF!     165     20    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00000001    "1025"     00040000
    HPET      56     01    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00000001    "1025"     00040000
    APIC     140     02    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00000001    "1025"     00040000
    MCFG      60     01    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00000001    "1025"     00040000
    SLIC     374     01    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00000001    "1025"     00040000
    WDAT     548     01    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00000001    "1025"     00040000
    SSDT    3010     01    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00001000    "1025"     00040000
    BOOT      40     01    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00000001    "1025"     00040000
    ASPT      52     07    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00000001    "1025"     00040000
    SSDT    2316     01    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00003000    "1025"     00040000
    SSDT    2454     01    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00003000    "1025"     00040000
    SSDT    1078     01    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00001000    "1025"     00040000
    XSDT     140     01    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00000001    "    "     01000013
    RSDT      88     01    "ACRSYS"  "ACRPRDCT"    00000001    "    "     01000013
    RSDP                   "ACRSYS"

Found 18 ACPI tables [20100107]

Um, well. Looks strange like Acer had overwritten everything with their own id.

dmidecode:

Code:

# dmidecode 2.9
SMBIOS 2.7 present.
52 structures occupying 2472 bytes.
Table at 0x000E4640.

Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 24 bytes
BIOS Information
	Vendor: Acer
	Version: V1.16
	Release Date: 05/04/2011
	ROM Size: 2560 kB
	Characteristics:
		PCI is supported
		BIOS is upgradeable
		BIOS shadowing is allowed
		Boot from CD is supported
		Selectable boot is supported
		EDD is supported
		Japanese floppy for NEC 9800 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h)
		Japanese floppy for Toshiba 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h)
		5.25"/360 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
		5.25"/1.2 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
		3.5"/720 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
		3.5"/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
		8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
		CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
		ACPI is supported
		USB legacy is supported
		BIOS boot specification is supported
		Targeted content distribution is supported
	BIOS Revision: 16.240

Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
System Information
	Manufacturer: Acer
	Product Name: Aspire 5950G
	Version: V1.16
	Wake-up Type: Power Switch
	SKU Number:  
	Family:

FWTS
Results generated by fwts: Version V0.18.04
Summary: 65 passed, 31 failed, 0 warnings, 2 aborted.
high 4
med 25
low 2
abort: microcode thingy, damn I should leave this test away
and No thermal zones found on this machine

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niceguy346 replied

11-08-2011, 10:40 PM
Asus f1a75-m pro

ASUS F1A75-M PRO:
I finally hooked up a cd drive to run the firmware kit

Firmwarekit (release 3)
SUMMARY: 4 Fails, 5 Warns, 11 Pass, 20 Total
http://pastebin.com/rAcxQ6wk
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Adarion replied

11-07-2011, 07:01 PM

AMD Geode LX board!

Something new for Whitecat's list. Okay, it is not so new but really new to my household.

Recent acquisition used and for little money.

Fujitsu Siemens Futro A230 Thin Client (A2xx series)
board: Teco TR2350 rev. 1.4
Geode LX 800

Tables

Code:

Signature Length  OemId     OemTableId   OemRevision CompilerId CompilerRevision

    DSDT    8459  "INSYDE"  "CS553x  "    00001007    "INTL"     20030122
    FACS      64
    FACP     132  "INSYDE"  "FACP_000"    31303030    "INSY"     31303030
    BOOT      40  "INSYDE"  "BOOT_000"    31303030    "INSY"     31303030
    DBGP      52  "INSYDE"  "DBGP_000"    31303030    "INSY"     31303030
    RSDT      48  "INSYDE"  "RSDT_000"    31303030    "INSY"     31303030
    RSDP          "OID_00"

Found 7 ACPI tables [20060324]

lshw/dmidecode and stuff

Code:

# dmidecode 2.9
SMBIOS 2.3 present.
15 structures occupying 687 bytes.
Table at 0x000C9662.

Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 20 bytes
BIOS Information
	Vendor: Advanced Micro Devices
	Version: TR2350_061506_01
	Release Date: 06/15/2006
	Address: 0xC8000
	Runtime Size: 224 kB
	ROM Size: 512 kB
	Characteristics:
		ISA is supported
		PCI is supported
		PC Card (PCMCIA) is supported
		APM is supported
		BIOS is upgradeable
		BIOS shadowing is allowed
		Boot from CD is supported
		BIOS ROM is socketed
		EDD is supported
		Japanese floppy for NEC 9800 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h)
		Japanese floppy for Toshiba 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h)
		3.5"/720 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
		3.5"/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
		Print screen service is supported (int 5h)
		8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
		Serial services are supported (int 14h)
		Printer services are supported (int 17h)
		CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
		ACPI is supported
		USB legacy is supported
		ATAPI Zip drive boot is supported
		Function key-initiated network boot is supported

Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 25 bytes
System Information
	Manufacturer: FUJITSU SIEMENS
	Product Name: FUTRO A200
	Version:
	Serial Number: 
	UUID: 
	Wake-up Type: LAN Remote

Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 8 bytes
Base Board Information
	Manufacturer: TECO Electric and Machinery Co., Ltd.
	Product Name: TR2350
	Version: REV:1.4 
	Serial Number: 

Handle 0x0003, DMI type 3, 17 bytes
Chassis Information
	Manufacturer: TECO Electric and Machinery Co., Ltd.
	Type: Desktop
	Lock: Not Present
	Version: A200BC
	Serial Number:
	Asset Tag:
	Boot-up State: Safe
	Power Supply State: Safe
	Thermal State: Safe
	Security Status: None
	OEM Information: 0x00000000

Handle 0x0004, DMI type 4, 35 bytes
Processor Information
	Socket Designation: BGU481
	Type: Central Processor
	Family: Other
	Manufacturer: AuthenticAMD
	ID: A2 05 00 00 3D A9 88 00
	Version: Geode LX800
	Voltage: 1.2 V
	External Clock: 66 MHz
	Max Speed: 500 MHz
	Current Speed: 500 MHz
	Status: Populated, Enabled
	Upgrade: None
	L1 Cache Handle: 0x0005
	L2 Cache Handle: 0x0006
	L3 Cache Handle: Not Provided
	Serial Number: Processor Serial Number
	Asset Tag: Asset_TAG
	Part Number: Part Number

2x128K Cache (L1 & L2), 512 M RAM (taken from my broken laptop, normally this comes with 128...256))
CPU features a little crypto / HW-RNG unit.

lspci (short)
00:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] Host Bridge (rev 31)
00:01.1 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Geode LX Video
00:01.2 Entertainment encryption device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Geode LX AES Security Block
00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
00:0f.0 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] ISA (rev 03)
00:0f.2 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] IDE (rev 01)
00:0f.3 Multimedia audio controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] Audio (rev 01)
00:0f.4 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] OHC (rev 02)
00:0f.5 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] EHC (rev 02)

lsusb -> nothing special here

results from the recent FWTS, all tests
FWTS Version V0.18.04 (built Wed Sep 15 10:41:31 BST 2010).

Summary: 54 passed, 11 failed, 0 warnings, 6 aborted.
note that the aborted ones seem to be mostly things that the CPU just did not support by HW because it just doesn't have that feature.
Also it was silly about its intel microcode.

One fail is from unreadable fan info. That is not really fair since the board has a super IO chip that iirc. doesn't provide monitoring functions but moreover it is completely fanless design anyway.
1 fail was with the HPET (does it have actually one?)
APIC Edge/Level Check brought 7 of the fails ( apicedge FAILED [MEDIUM]: test 1, Non-Legacy interrupt ## is incorrectly level triggered )
another "failed" came from a warning in the kernel log: klog Warning: Invalid length for Pm2ControlBlock: 16, using default 8 (20100428/tbfadt-607)
1 fail from Re-assemble DSDT

More stuff coming as soon as I have access to it. Hopefully I'll be designing a little AMD E-350 style box for my mom around xmas. Of course I'll give it some testing.

The good thing is that the FWTS provides you a really good means of bootable distro also opening a console and having acpidump (copy the files elsewhere to the filesystem for later use!) and stuff, it even gives you quite a whole live Ubuntu so you could even fire up a browser and post instantly results.

Umm, does anybody know if ACPI is also used on ARM arch? I have this Beagleboard here...

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