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Originally posted by drag View PostThe OEMS don't do the development themselves, instead they license it out to other people. Especially with laptops and other devices the OEMs rarely do any significant manufacturing themselves. They use ODMs, which are the major manufacturers. Mostly out of China, Korea, and Taiwan.
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Also a interesting use case for building Linux directly into the hardware is having virtualization hypervisor built-in through the use of KVM and related technologies.
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Originally posted by 89c51 View Postcould someone explain the benefits of replacing the standard BIOS with Coreboot apart from the Free Software, Open Source stuff and being able to load an OS without a boot loader.
PS. this things begs for an xzibit "yo dawg we heard you like linux so we put linux on your bios so you can linux even before you linux" type meme but yeah
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What about the variant of Fusion that would go into low to mid-range desktops and laptops? Are those (going to be) supported with Coreboot as well?
Ideally, for my next system build, I'd like to leave Intel behind entirely and go with the Phenom II X6 1100T, along with my current HD5970 (hanging on to it until at least HD7000 series is out for a few months). Open source graphics drivers + coreboot bios would basically give me a top to bottom free software stack....... oh, unless you count the kernel firmware for the radeon GPUs. Darn.
I think I'll look for a Fusion laptop, too, ideally with just a little more punch than an Intel GMA, without being as large and power hungry as a GeForce Go.
Here's to hoping they'll both have Coreboot support by the time I'm ready to buy.
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The OEMS don't do the development themselves, instead they license it out to other people. Especially with laptops and other devices the OEMs rarely do any significant manufacturing themselves. They use ODMs, which are the major manufacturers. Mostly out of China, Korea, and Taiwan.
The ODMs manufacture the devices themselves, but they don't usually do much software development themselves. They have third parties do it...
As you can see it's all really complicated. They continue to use BIOSes, probably because it's cheaper then developing something new from scratch and that you need a BIOS for Windows XP compatibility. (For newer versions of Windows you can use EFI)
Stuff like this takes a long time to change.
As time progresses and if people see a significant benefit for CoreBoot then manufacturers will begin to support it on their own.
With Coreboot you should be able to get XP compatibility through things like SeaBIOS. Just like you do with virtual machines on KVM....
Also a interesting use case for building Linux directly into the hardware is having virtualization hypervisor built-in through the use of KVM and related technologies.
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could someone explain the benefits of replacing the standard BIOS with Coreboot apart from the Free Software, Open Source stuff and being able to load an OS without a boot loader.
PS. this things begs for an xzibit "yo dawg we heard you like linux so we put linux on your bios so you can linux even before you linux" type meme but yeah
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why does no oem provide a mainboard with coreboot? Do they include spy routines in bioses or what reason is there to pay money to a company to get a crappy bios? Coreboot can boot windows so whats the problem?
They could not only cut down their costs (bios-licenses), they could advertise the features, instant-web or something like that. So explain it to me? Is it spy-routines or what do they hide or get when they not include such coreboot.
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Way to go, AMD! I only wished they expanded this initiative to all of their chipsets, because I've heard that Coreboot is capable of some serious ass kicking and can't wait to get my hands on it.
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I had meant to read up more on that when I noticed it several days back.
The blogs are an interesting read - briefly explains why making it open source is a good idea, and how they're using it to increase the presence of Fusion in the embedded market.
Keep up the good work AMD.
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