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  • coder
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    Originally posted by rclark View Post
    Just checked again since you asked. 39.7C after ~3 hours of just sitting there. It is in normal room temp environment. Oh, and headless running the 32bit PI OS Lite.
    Thanks for the update! My Pi 3B (original version) was running the Pi OS 64-bit Beta version that was current as of about 4-5 months ago.

    Originally posted by rclark View Post
    I also for kicks, checked one of my RPI4s that is running a PDP11/70 front panel which is enclosed inside that front panel enclosure. Without running simh, it has been sitting at 47.7C . Running simh and the simple blinking lights program, it pops up to ~52C. It does have a heat sink, no active cooling.
    Good to know.

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  • rclark
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    Just checked again since you asked. 39.7C after ~3 hours of just sitting there. It is in normal room temp environment. Oh, and headless running the 32bit PI OS Lite.

    I also for kicks, checked one of my RPI4s that is running a PDP11/70 front panel which is enclosed inside that front panel enclosure. Without running simh, it has been sitting at 47.7C . Running simh and the simple blinking lights program, it pops up to ~52C. It does have a heat sink, no active cooling.
    Last edited by rclark; 06 November 2021, 05:50 PM.

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by rclark View Post
    Temp is 38.6C while doing nothing but htop. No heatsink yet.
    Stable? Because my Pi 3B + heatsink idles at > 50 C, in headless mode. I think yours won't stay at 38.6, if it's in a room temperature environment.

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  • rclark
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    Looks like DVFS is working. Not sure exactly how to check, but it is hopping around frequency wise.

    # /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state
    600000 103630
    700000 1807
    800000 62
    900000 0
    1000000 894

    Temp is 38.6C while doing nothing but htop. No heatsink yet.

    Just out of the box running the latest updated PI OS in the open air.

    Last edited by rclark; 06 November 2021, 02:11 PM.

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  • tuxd3v
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    Originally posted by rclark View Post
    "headline ... reflect the real price" ...
    I just bought a RPI Zero 2 Friday. Caught it 'in stock' . By the time I got home in the evening, it was 'out of stock' again. And yes paid $15 for it. But with other 'stuff' I bought with it, the order was 'free' shipping. By next weekend I should have it up and running.
    yeah Michael needs to update the price..

    nice, please post here your findings about the board, what you like and what's not, one of the things the PI got right is also the camera, and it has acceleration and codecs for it..
    we are all crazy for our electronic toys

    please verify if dynamic voltage frequency scaling is working ok( DVFS ), I have some problems in my bananapi m2 zero, with this.. cpu only goes to 600Mhz only when board is sleeping for some time, and that generates heat..majority of time when I check its at 1Ghz, temp in standby( in a open space with ~20C degrees ambient), is about 33C.

    hope you enjoy your board..

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by jaxa View Post
    The headline still hasn't been updated to reflect the real price and that is a travesty.
    If you have an issue with an article, you should tag Michael .

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  • rclark
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    "headline ... reflect the real price" ...

    I just bought a RPI Zero 2 Friday. Caught it 'in stock' . By the time I got home in the evening, it was 'out of stock' again. And yes paid $15 for it. But with other 'stuff' I bought with it, the order was 'free' shipping. By next weekend I should have it up and running.

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  • tuxd3v
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    in Relation to this change.. I think that maybe a quad core, cortex-a7 would be a better solution for a so tiny board..
    It seems they want to get rid of armhf, and from a OS perspective having to build a OS to several archs is painful..

    Bananapi m2 zero its the most direct concurrent of RaspberryPi zero W, and it has serious power compared with rpi zero w.. however it heats a lot..its a quad core cortex-a7 processor( it has a lot more processing power than the zero w.. ), but powered up by LDOs( they heat a lot..and so the board.. )...puff

    bananapi m2 zero, is nice, but it also has some nasty problem design flaws, and by design it doesn't even have PWM( you need to chose or PWM or uart, pwm is above one of the pins for the serial uart.. ), but they do advertise the board with PWM in its GPIO!
    Its false,if you chose pwm you loose the serial uart! and both are advertised as present..
    Wifi, and Bluetooth work nicely in AP6212... but no FM Radio at all, routed in the board, another big mistake...


    I hope that RaspberryPI really brings all those GPIOs correctly, and please bring FM Radio, I know a lot of Broadcom/cypress now aka Infineon, have FM Radio inside, not all but some do have..bring it on!
    also don't power the SoC by LDOs, they heat a lot and DVFS is a freak thing( when using LDO's), use instead a PMIC..
    I hope that a quad core cortex-a53 will not catch fire on a so tiny board...

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  • jaxa
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    The headline still hasn't been updated to reflect the real price and that is a travesty.

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  • tuxd3v
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    Originally posted by coder View Post
    RTC's own time is usually worse than the drift-corrected clock value calibrated via NTP. The main benefit of RTC is that the board has the correct approximate time at power-on, before it can sync with an NTCP server.
    Agree but between updates of the ntp server, the time is more accurate if you have a RTC locally, because the hw clock its 32768Hz.
    so you made a ntp update, after that the time will be more accurate until next ntp update, if RTC is present..

    Yeah on boot its also important, and having a battery to save the correct or "more or less accurate" time..

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