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Originally posted by marlock View PostAGL - Automotive Grade Linux may be the greatest, most successful move for general Linux adoption and sustained evolution after supercomputers.
I mean, they got like half the big car companies in the world paying big cash to devs, to do dead-serious work on the whole software stack, stability and security concerns are an integral part of their worries, and they really seem to be happy and supportive of FOSS principles as the work evolves... and now even some open hardware principles seem to be seeping in... into car companies!
It looks plain awesome!
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If I understood correctly, at the moment QNX has only partial overlap with AGL, and manufacturers can sign up to work with AGL regardless of using QNX in their vehicle... even using parts of both in the same vehicle (eg: AGL-based infotainement + QNX critical systems)
What I saw to make me say so:
Which makes sense since QNX is more well established already while AGL is a relatively recent initiative, not yet past all safety critical certifications, etc... but doesn't mean AGL isn't generating widespread interest and engagement in development from many big automotive players.
Note how I said nothing about the amount of vehicles being sold with AGL onboard, because at the moment there are very few in any part of the vehicle software stack... but that's likely to gradually change as AGL matures, and a lot of companies are working on it... which is what I already see as a win for Linux as a broader ecossystem, even if it doesn't instantly dominate the market in all levels...
ps: one cool thing about FOSS in general and Linux specifically: even if it never pans out, the work done until then will have already benefited Linux as a broader whole... and AGL has been careful to contribute upstream to ensure so.
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Originally posted by uid313 View PostI wonder why Tesla designed their own hardware instead of just using SoC from Qualcomm, Marvell, Broadcom, etc.
Most modern AI-grade hardware accelerators aren't a GPU but something custom and designed jfor the type of algorithm
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostNeither make a half-way powerful enough system for a self-driving car. Only one is NVIDIA and knowing them they were probably ridicolously expensive and not focused enough on what they want to do.
Most modern AI-grade hardware accelerators aren't a GPU but something custom and designed jfor the type of algorithm
But yeah maybe just Nvidia fills the niche of offering high performance SoC.
I don't think Intel, AMD or POWER have any AI offerings. The things from Marvel, NXP, Qualcomm and Samsung might not have anything powerful enough.
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Originally posted by uid313 View PostBut Google's TensorFlow runs on Qualcomm Snapdragon mobiles.
Also SnapDragons have no dedicated AI coprocessor, it's all run on the CPU or GPU.
But yeah maybe just Nvidia fills the niche of offering high performance SoC.
For Tesla and anyone doing a custom design, the hardware would be more similar to a Parallela https://www.adapteva.com/parallella/ where you have a weak general-purpose ARM CPU doing basic stuff like I/O and a dedicated custom co-processor optimized to run whatever AI algorithms they want to run. Of course the Parallela is still a weak device for the job, but it would be similar, just bigger.
I don't think Intel, AMD or POWER have any AI offerings. The things from Marvel, NXP, Qualcomm and Samsung might not have anything powerful enough.Last edited by starshipeleven; 15 January 2020, 05:24 PM.
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Originally posted by M1kkko View PostMeanwhile all Tesla's software is locked down, and they are literally charging you $2000 for a software fix that allows the car you already bought go faster.
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Originally posted by discordian View Postcar with a ton of burning-like-hell lithium.
illustration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub5NjC7np7E
btw, largest tesla battery weights much less than ton, and lithium takes up few percent of its weight. for example "A 70kWh Tesla battery uses 63kg of Lithium Carbonate Li2CO3, of which 19% or 12kg is Lithium." so you have 12 kg of benign lithium vs dozens of kg of explosives(you know ice cars work on fast explosions, don't you?)Last edited by pal666; 15 January 2020, 06:51 PM.
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