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Radeon HD 7000
Guys is it me or it is obvious in all tests, even if they are old games, that Radeon HD 7xxx cards are performing noticeably worse than the older Radeons even with Catalyst running??
Also I ve noticed something like that although less intense with the Cayman islands Radeons HD 69xx both with gallium and catalyst!
Any idea why do we have those regressions even on the blob catalyst??
On the other hand nvidia's blob shows no regressions on latest 6xx series, Nouveau needs some love from nvidia either they like it or not!! I agree with Linus words back then...Last edited by djdoo; 08 July 2013, 10:43 AM.
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Originally posted by BO$$ View PostWell, I want Ubuntu to just work.
This argument that windows sucks too isn't good enough.
Wasn't linux supposed to be better?
Instead of hunting on websites for drivers the OS just works.
Now that would be another selling point.But we can't have that now can we?
Now back on topic. It is indeed nice that the r600g driver has a pretty good performance, compared with fglrx. Only that fglrx itself does not perform well on Linux, compared to the Windows version, but this possibly may only be true for those older games. Would be really nice to see any modern games in a benchmark.
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Originally posted by Nille View PostIts looks only like this because the Games engines are very very old. Play something from today e.g. Source Based games or Wine and you see the difference is still huge.
Of course, there will be some engines where the open drivers are less performant (see Reaction Quake), but I don't think that it's as dark as you paint it.
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The open / closed driver split is a tremendous stumbling block for newbies to Linux in my experience. They don't understand why performance is so bad or something doesn't work. Fortunately it's easier these days to switch between the two (in Ubuntu at least... kinda... not that they're keeping up to date with driver releases).
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Originally posted by djdoo View PostGuys is it me or it is obvious in all tests, even if they are old games, that Radeon HD 7xxx cards are performing noticeably worse than the older Radeons even with Catalyst running??
Also I ve noticed something like that although less intense with the Cayman islands Radeons HD 69xx both with gallium and catalyst!
Any idea why do we have those regressions even on the blob catalyst??
On the other hand nvidia's blob shows no regressions on latest 6xx series, Nouveau needs some love from nvidia either they like it or not!! I agree with Linus words back then...
The open / closed driver split is a tremendous stumbling block for newbies to Linux in my experience. They don't understand why performance is so bad or something doesn't work.
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Originally posted by johnc View PostThe open / closed driver split is a tremendous stumbling block for newbies to Linux in my experience. They don't understand why performance is so bad or something doesn't work. Fortunately it's easier these days to switch between the two (in Ubuntu at least... kinda... not that they're keeping up to date with driver releases).
If they would just give up and realize that Catalyst drivers suck, always have sucked, and always going to continue to suck and completely disregard them as a possibility then it would make things massively easier for new Linux users to understand.
Instead new users come to places like this and are told that if they want good performance for ATI to install the drivers and they have to struggle through the 'Catalyst is shit' learning curve until they give up and use open source drivers, go back to Windows, or just go out and buy a Nvidia card.
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