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  • phoronix
    started a topic Sponsoring Open-Source Drivers For $1 Per Day?

    Sponsoring Open-Source Drivers For $1 Per Day?

    Phoronix: Sponsoring Open-Source Drivers For $1 Per Day?

    An idea is being kicked around within the forums about sponsoring open-source driver development for one dollar per day...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTEyNDU

  • tarceri
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    Hi guys, for anyone still interested i this topic I have started a small scale campaign to do some Mesa development. In an effort to better understand if crowd sourcing Mesa development would work I have setup a small project on Indiegogo with the Goal of implementing the GL_KHR_debug extension (OpenGL 4.3). As a stretch goal I aiming to create a bit of a guide to get started with the basics of Mesa development based on my experience. Please feel free to ask me any questions, comment on my idea or in good old Phoronix fashion flame me for whatever your reasons my be.

    To view my campaign just go to indiegogo and search for Mesa.

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  • tarceri
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    Hi guys, for anyone still interested I have started a small scale campaign to do some Mesa development. See my post here for more information: http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...ent-experiment

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  • NomadDemon
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    i think its better to pay for results

    like milestones

    ie : initial opengl4 support - is useless, because you wont run anything by opengl4. your pc say "hey i can run opengl4" and your display say "f u, look my colorfull artifacts"

    we need like full stuff for 1 topic, like

    dynamic power management DONE = i pay

    good configurable tv output and all outputs on card with good GUI = i pay

    make quake live playeble on constant 60 fps[ not shity 30 on my radeon 4850 like now, with mega lags/tearing [its unplayable] = i pay

    fix amnesia dark descent inputs [first time i installed i couldnt move mouse, 0,5 year later i can move mouse, but only on 80% of surface, cant move pointer to bottom of screen ad click "continue button"] = i pay

    make blender work realy fast = i pay

    cooperate with valve and make this drivers more suitable than catalist = i pay

    fix compiz on oss drivers, to dont produce 1 second lag for maximizing windows etc. = i pay

    its like kickstarter, but it works other way, more like BOUNTY.

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  • curaga
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    Originally posted by mitcoes View Post
    The S3 STC compresion algorithm has not actual good replacement at open source drivers, and is still a proprietary patented part of every blob, and I think there would be a specific open source project to replace it, as well as other parts that are what make proprietary drivers so much faster than open source ones.
    We have several open S3TC implementations, some of them very good quality. It's not the source that is lacking, the s3tc issue is only about patents.

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  • mitcoes
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    Modular hybrid drivers

    I think AMD, Nvidia or Intel must make a modular driver - at least at the source level - where the parts they cannot or do not want to open were closed.

    Then the community of the open source drivers would have 2 works

    1.- Improve the open source code

    2.- Replace the proprietary source part.

    The S3 STC compresion algorithm has not actual good replacement at open source drivers, and is still a proprietary patented part of every blob, and I think there would be a specific open source project to replace it, as well as other parts that are what make proprietary drivers so much faster than open source ones.

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  • 89c51
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    Originally posted by lapis View Post
    Funding only for documented hardware(or partial documentation). Reverse enginering for undocumented is a waste of money.


    I think it's better to propose a big value funding campaign instead of time based funding.(It's better to propose 500 000 dollars funding instead 1 dolar a day)
    we don't have to start with something hardware specific. A state tracker is pretty much hardware agnostic and usually the HW specific bits are done by the guys employed by the comanies.

    As for the amount i also believe that we must set a target ie raise 100000 to have feature X implemented.

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  • DavidNielsen
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    I think 1$ a day might be a bit much (giving more than 350$ a year towards one project seems a bit much for most people), 10$ a month seems more the norm in terms of donations (e.g. it is what I give to the EFF each month). That being said I am a fan of the idea of funding open driver development.

    As for the original Nouveau pledge drive, seing as I was the person who organized that I can provide a bit of information on what went wrong. Basically I was ahead of my time when it comes to crowdfunding, I was entirely unable to find a non-profit to hold the money for the project. No distribution foundations (such as The, now likely dead, Ubuntu Foundation, The Fedora Foundation), nor newly started, at the time, ventures like the Software Freedom Conservancy were willing to take on the task at the time. This meant that the only option we had was directly putting the money into one of the developers accounts, doing this would have meant incurring additional taxes on the donations. More worryingly though, after talking to the bank used by the Nouveau founder 1000's of payments in the 10$ range to a private account would have been triggered fraud flags and the account would have been closed down for investigation.

    So after a long time and consideration it was decided to consider the pledge drive a success based solely on the willingness showed from people, however the money was never collected as there would meant much less than the expected 10.000$ ending up with the developers due to taxation and the risk of disrupting the developer in questions personal finances.

    An additional issue that arose afterwards was the concern about who got what inside the Nouveau project. There was a concern that some developers might feel cheated based on how the funds might be allotted, e.g. there was talk about perhaps hiring someone to work fulltime for a month or two, in that case who would that be and would that selection be fair.

    I am very proud of the pledge drive, I found it really heartwarming to see that people were willing to put their money down to take a stand for openness. It is naturally sad that we never actually managed to collect the money but I have heard from several sources that it raised awareness about the Nouveau project as well as the issues of Open drivers in general and helped build confidence in later online crowdfunding ventures.

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  • Ferdinand
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    I think we should first get in contact with corporations like Red Hat, Canonical, Google, Samsung, Qualcom etc. Let them figure out how we can get much better open source drivers and present them to us. Then we might be able to get some sort of funding for it. A service where you pay per year and your hardware gets a little more priority might work. Or maybe if you pay 30 dollar per year to Canonical...
    You would think that corporations would love good free and gratis open source drivers?

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  • lapis
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    Funding only for documented hardware(or partial documentation). Reverse enginering for undocumented is a waste of money.


    I think it's better to propose a big value funding campaign instead of time based funding.(It's better to propose 500 000 dollars funding instead 1 dolar a day)

    Leave a comment:

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