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50% slower than AMD! Intel FAIL again with the HD4000 graphic hardware.

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  • Kano
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    Thats not fully correct, intel has got some atom chips with powervr core, all other gfx cores are not licenced. But for win use the powervr drivers must really suck, only 32 bit possible, dx9 support even with dx11 hardware. flash does not seem to be accellerated yet and hdmi (hdcp) support is missing - in order to play bluray... I really want know if powervr manages to improve those drivers, for opengl (on android) they seem to be much better. And you should not forget there will be win 8 systems with arm core - those usually have got the same graphics solutions, so pvr has got something to do the next month as well

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  • bug77
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    Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
    In my point of view Intel is just Incompetent they just can't build fast GPU's
    Afaik, they're not even trying. Their GPUs are licensed from PowerVR or something.
    But if you want to talk about "incompetent" maybe we should look at some market share charts. And I'm not talking just CPUs here, intel is present in market where AMD doesn't even exist (e.g. GPS nav). Market share not good enough? We can try revenue instead.

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  • DanL
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    Originally posted by RealNC View Post
    I stopped reading Q's posts long ago. Some months back, he was making some semi-good posts. Now he's just trolling all over the place.
    Yeah, especially when HE writes LIKE THIS.

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  • Kano
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    I really want to know which "millions" of gamers you mean, any statistics you have got where amd trinity chips are more important than intel gpus? If you look at

    http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

    they must be below 0.5% - just like the snb ones. the older intel mobile series 4 chips use at least 1.5% of the steam users. For browser games you dont need statistics, they run everywhere.
    Last edited by Kano; 01-18-2012, 06:51 PM.

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  • darkbasic
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    Even HD3000 is still much faster than AMD's fastest apu using OSS drivers.
    We need better drivers...

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  • Qaridarium
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    Originally posted by Kano View Post
    I really don't see the millions hardcore gamers that can only afford one notebook.
    not hardcore gamers but there are millions of gamers.
    and amd is selling well to these people.

    Originally posted by Kano View Post
    Those simply spend 200? on a console and are usually happy with that.
    I don't think so. gaming consoles are a underclass uneducated people phenomenon.

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  • Kano
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    I really don't see the millions hardcore gamers that can only afford one notebook. Those simply spend 200? on a console and are usually happy with that. I know some hardcore gamers that just want to play and not to update gfx drivers and/or wait for patches just to be able to play the games. Especially amd has shown very bad opengl game support. Rage was released a few month ago and the recommended driver is still a "preview", now called 12.1a. id seems to wait for amd to publish a FINAL driver with all fixes before they ship the 2nd update for Rage. As opengl driver quality also matters for linux i would prefer to add an extra nvidia card. It does not need to be the fastest card, usually gtx 460 and above should be able to handle most of the top games with all effects enabled at full hd res. Intel onboard certainly does not, also amd onboard solutions are definitely nothing for full hd with everything turned on, maybe on lowest detail.

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  • Qaridarium
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    Originally posted by Panix View Post
    Wasn't the latest AMD processor architecture a major failure? Plus, the power consumption and heat was considerably high even for a mobile chip. Intel's bread and butter is the cpu and processing power. Even if they're 'incompetent' at building a mGPU, AMD can't seem to build a competitive cpu particularly a mobile chip version.

    Their graphics divisions are good but they can't seem to release a decent driver. I guess no one is perfect.

    It still seems odd to me to put great effort into getting a 'gaming' laptop. Currently, it doesn't seem like any manufacturers do that very well. Heat and power consumption is a challenge even for basic laptops.
    i think you don't have any clue about this tropic: "Intel's "cripple AMD" function" http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49

    AMD processor architecture are only a major failure because Intel cripple AMD and also intel force amd to make the cpus incompatible to intels instruction set: "Stop the instruction set war" http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=25

    In Fact you are complete incompetent to arguing against amd's CPU Architecture.

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  • Qaridarium
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    Originally posted by curaga View Post
    Disappointing for Ivy.
    intel do have another viewpoint: they just point out that hd4000 is 50-100% faster than intels hd3000.

    but following the intel logic is this: a speed up from 0 fps to 1 fps is a UNLIMITED SPEED UP!!!! LOL

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  • Qaridarium
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    Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
    And how fast is the intel for real?
    Meaning: With today's intel driver vs today's radeon open source driver.
    i don't know the intel hardware is to new to test this.

    Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
    Also, you left out the part where Quanta tries to sue AMD for letting their graphics chip run too hot.
    simple answer: Quanta will lose in court. because they are incompetent to.

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