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  • DanL
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    Does it matter that the codec support is optimized when the hardware itself is slower?
    The GT520 may have less 3D hardware, but its core and memory clocks are faster, which is the important thing for PureVideo. Did you actually look at the benchmarks, or did you just assume the 520 was slower? http://www.anandtech.com/show/4380/d...us-shootout/11

    As PureVideo HD performance is dependent on the GPU's core clock speed, the impact of PureVideo will vary depending on the speed rather than the 3D power of your graphics card.

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  • Richard Wolf VI
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    Originally posted by DanL View Post
    The fifth generation of PureVideo HD, introduced with the Geforce GT 520, has significantly improved performance when decoding H.264 (and, from an already much higher level, other codecs),[8] it is also capable of decoding 4K x 2K videos.[9] -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purevid...n_PureVideo_HD

    Also, since the 3D hardware isn't as beefy as the 430, it probably uses less power, which is a good thing when using passive cooling..
    Doesn't convince me yet. Intel GMA X3500 supports DirectX 10 yet you won't play Crysis with it. Does it matter that the codec support is optimized when the hardware itself is slower? I feel that any advantage in code is lost because of it.

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  • DanL
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    Originally posted by Richard Wolf VI View Post
    If VDPAU is a big issue, I don't see why a GT 520 is still a good buy when the GT 430 exists in the same factor and price.
    The fifth generation of PureVideo HD, introduced with the Geforce GT 520, has significantly improved performance when decoding H.264 (and, from an already much higher level, other codecs),[8] it is also capable of decoding 4K x 2K videos.[9] -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purevid...n_PureVideo_HD

    Also, since the 3D hardware isn't as beefy as the 430, it probably uses less power, which is a good thing when using passive cooling..

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  • Kano
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    What you say is definitely incorrect. Btw. if you have got libva + vdpau-video wrapper installed then vainfo will show mpeg4simple which is used by divx. Most likely there is a test tool for vdpau directly too. xvba-video never exposed that or did you see it? if you recommend ati hardware because of video decoding hardware that only works within win then you are in the wrong forum i think...

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  • jcgeny
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    Originally posted by Kano View Post
    you can decode mpeg4 simple profile (aka divx) via vdpau since g210 on linux. it does did not always work perfectly but it was implemented long ago. do you really think ati invented this? it is not possible to do that with linux via the xvba-video wrapper. so the cheapest card for htpc is definitely g210 with full vdpau support. only for full hd h264 with > 50 fps progressive a newer modell with gt4xx would be better, but no gt405 as this like g210 just rebranded. bd content is never in that range - when there is 50/60 fps content it is always interlaced, but there are cameras out there that could use those maximum settings.
    nv or older than hd6k have some hardware for mpeg2 that is used by xvid/divx codecs for the rendering , like " motion compensation " with ati rage pro was with dvd at the time of w98 - half-life .
    but hd6k is able to render the divx without any help from cpus
    nv made the hit with its 3d support while ati always do the best in 2d . now ati does some good 3d for a cheaper price than nv . by the way gpu market is 50-50 .
    i do not have a hd6k but that should be cool to know if ati-drivers are installing codec for divx with linux or windows

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  • Richard Wolf VI
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    Originally posted by DanL View Post
    You keep missing the part where I agree with that with the exception of doing VDPAU in Linux...
    If VDPAU is a big issue, I don't see why a GT 520 is still a good buy when the GT 430 exists in the same factor and price.

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  • DanL
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    Originally posted by Richard Wolf VI View Post
    am I missing something? The HD 6450 is cheaper than the GT 520 yet it has a superior performance.
    You keep missing the part where I agree with that with the exception of doing VDPAU in Linux...

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  • Kano
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    you can decode mpeg4 simple profile (aka divx) via vdpau since g210 on linux. it does did not always work perfectly but it was implemented long ago. do you really think ati invented this? it is not possible to do that with linux via the xvba-video wrapper. so the cheapest card for htpc is definitely g210 with full vdpau support. only for full hd h264 with > 50 fps progressive a newer modell with gt4xx would be better, but no gt405 as this like g210 just rebranded. bd content is never in that range - when there is 50/60 fps content it is always interlaced, but there are cameras out there that could use those maximum settings.
    Last edited by Kano; 21 September 2011, 06:19 AM.

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  • jcgeny
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    Originally posted by DanL View Post
    Again, apples and oranges for the price and class of cards you're talking about..
    The competitor for the GT520 is the RadeonHD 6450 (also with a 64-bit bus). Considering that no AMD cards do full VDPAU in Linux (yet), there's no competition at all if that's what the card is intended for.
    ati was the first to have full hardware for mpeg2 , it was before geforce was born . with hd6k it has the DIVX in hardware .
    for the 2d and 3d , ati is largely better than nv .
    if "nouveau" drivers are not good enough to use full potential , that does not mean card is badly made .

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  • Richard Wolf VI
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    Originally posted by DanL View Post
    Again, apples and oranges for the price and class of cards you're talking about..
    The competitor for the GT520 is the RadeonHD 6450 (also with a 64-bit bus). Considering that no AMD cards do full VDPAU in Linux (yet), there's no competition at all if that's what the card is intended for.
    The three cards mentioned are around the same price as the GT 520 and are available as half height cards, am I missing something? The HD 6450 is cheaper than the GT 520 yet it has a superior performance. I said the bus on the GT 520 was a joke because cards in the same price are better in practically every aspect. If you dislike AMD, there's the GT 430, which may not be a very powerful card yet it is a better investment than this poor excuse of a budget card.

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