ati 5770 or still a nvidia

[pingufunkybeat]

FOSS ATi drivers do not need xorg.conf, I haven't had one for almost a year now.

[Panix]

Surely, you jest. The last time I tried Ubuntu with my Thinkpad, I needed to manually create/edit an xorg.conf file in Ubuntu 9.10 with the R250 ATI mobility card in the laptop. I just gave up because it was a PITA and I wasn't sure what all to put there. I came up with content/code that nearly worked but switched to a different distro eventually.

Else, it wouldn't boot up (unless in safe mode) and I couldn't enable 3D at all so forget about Compiz. I don't know if anything's changed but I'm guessing not much. Just a different set of problems now, probably. This is Ubuntu, too, which is claimed to be one of the distros officially supported. Since a significant portion of the ATI/AMD/Xorg camp don't seem to 'get along' too well, I guess I can't say I'm not surprised.

[pingufunkybeat]

I don't know what it's like on Ubuntu, but I deleted xorg.conf, installed a new kernel, libdrm, mesa and ddx, and it's been running since some time in August.

The "officially supported distro" refers to the binary driver, which needs an xorg.conf. The free drivers are not "officially supported" on anything.

If you're using the free drivers, it's recommended to delete the xorg.conf file and let X autodetect everything. On any distro.

[Panix]

I don't know what it's like on Ubuntu, but I deleted xorg.conf, installed a new kernel, libdrm, mesa and ddx, and it's been running since some time in August.

The "officially supported distro" refers to the binary driver, which needs an xorg.conf. The free drivers are not "officially supported" on anything.

If you're using the free drivers, it's recommended to delete the xorg.conf file and let X autodetect everything. On any distro.

I installed Debian 'Squeeze' instead and with LXDE. But, with Ubuntu 9.10, I had problems just booting up. I read tons of posts, googled the issues and read of similar experiences/issues while trying various configurations of xorg.conf files I created. I'm just saying what happened so if it works now or has improved, I don't know about it.

[pingufunkybeat]

Anyway, there is a lot of "I assume", "I'm guessing" and "I don't know" and "probably" in your post. I can tell you without any "probably" that it works without an xorg.conf here, that I have a composited and accelerated desktop, and that I'm playing Penumbra on it right now, with dynamic lighting and all that.

It's quite possible that it doesn't work for everyone -- the drivers are still under heavy development. Still, it's more useful to say what exactly doesn't work so it can be fixed -- the devs do read the posts here regularly, and submitting a bug report is more useful than "probably doesn't work".

[Jimbo]

One of the easiest ways to try OSS drivers is to install Lucid and xorg edgers.

>add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
>aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade

And once 2.6.35 gets ready (you will get power saving) download and install it from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/

>dpkg -i linux-image... linux-headers...

My xorg.conf is empty too, all is auto detected. Video is working *perfect* without tearing and 2d too.

I strongly suggest you to do this on a separate partition because xorg edgers from time to time broke something (although it is fixed in a few days).

[Jimbo]

Nvidia "Jen-Hsun Huang" if you can read this i hope nvidia Goes Out of Business!

Die Nvidia DIE!

"Jen-Hsun Huang" i hope you get a new job in a Toilet cleaning Company!

I believed it too, I really see fermi as a "houston, we have a problem" hardware.

But in the finall, nvidia is making profit of fermi , yeah! the power of marketing!!

http://www.nvidia.com/object/io_1266442180974.html

[Panix]

Maybe, but I just read that the Fermi cards are supported in Linux, now.

Evergreen ATI card still aren't?!? After over a year?!? Both Ubuntu and Fedora users claim black screens when trying to boot.

Yeah, Nvidia hardware might be inferior but the point is the driver support is usually there soon after the cards are released. The Nvidia webpage shows support established with bug fixes at the end of April.

Maybe ATI/AMD will have HD 5000 cards supported in the year 2015???

[pingufunkybeat]

Stop trolling, please, Evergreen has been supported since shortly after launch.

Fglrx has its issues on some machines, but this doesn't mean that it's not supported.

First you were claiming that fglrx doesn't do any powersaving, now you're claiming that Evergreen is not supported, are you intentionally trolling here or what?

[Panix]

Stop trolling, please, Evergreen has been supported since shortly after launch.

Fglrx has its issues on some machines, but this doesn't mean that it's not supported.

First you were claiming that fglrx doesn't do any powersaving, now you're claiming that Evergreen is not supported, are you intentionally trolling here or what?

How is it trolling? I'm pointing out that the support is QUITE POOR!

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1463961&highlight=5770

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1480217&highlight=5770

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479140&highlight=5770

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1459253&highlight=5770

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1477536&highlight=5850

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=155503&page=265

Don't worry, I won't even illustrate with examples via Ubuntu Launchpad!

The HD 5xxx series of cards is released over a year ago and still, so many issues/problems. Yes, maybe some features will work but OOTB issues give black screens and you have to run through hoops to get from point B to point A? FOSS drivers, you need to do some special process to have some features?

So, in summary, someone buying a recent HD 5xxx card is going to have a surprise and chore in getting the card 'to work.' Why is saying, 'c'mon, already?!?' trolling?