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ASRock Challenger Arc Graphics B570 Arrives For Linux Testing
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Originally posted by Spike_Spiegel View Posti just got my b580 asrock card yesterday from newegg. $269 still waiting for the rest of the parts to put a pc together for wife and kid to share. I am kinda looking forward to see how far intel can come with their gpu's.
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i just got my b580 asrock card yesterday from newegg. $269 still waiting for the rest of the parts to put a pc together for wife and kid to share. I am kinda looking forward to see how far intel can come with their gpu's.
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Originally posted by sophisticles View PostNo need to wait for a review, we know the specs of the B570 and the B580 and we know the benchmark results for the B580.
A bit of simple math and you can predict the B570 results with a high degree of certainty.
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Looking forward to the benchmarks even if we already know how they will turn out. I like the idea above of a run with i915 too.
Also, ASRock and their damn unnecessarily tall cooler designs even on lowend cards.
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No need to wait for a review, we know the specs of the B570 and the B580 and we know the benchmark results for the B580.
A bit of simple math and you can predict the B570 results with a high degree of certainty.
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Originally posted by geerge View PostSeems like a bad deal. Almost priced like an upsell, but the B580 is already cheap. Probably mostly for OEM's or as a last resort if B580 stock is low or B580 raises in price.
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Originally posted by Quackdoc View PostI wonder if you could run benchmarks testing I915 vs XE on these cards, They do report that i915 is compatible and im wondering if some driver issues are related to XE.
All my testing has been with TSC clock source, IOMMU/VT-x/VT-d, GuC, and HUC enabled (i915.enable_guc=3 intel_iommu=on iommu=pt) as well as i915.modeset=1 and any relevant GNOME "experimental features" enabled. So any kernel / HW optimizations available are being used. (And I've disabled all watchdog timers--as they are broken on my system anyways.) I'm also using the CachyOS kernel with Fedora. So, I don't think I'm leaving any low hanging fruit that might improve system performance. I will say that the TGL Xe iGPU (with 96EUs) is surprisingly powerful for a mobile GPU. Even the desktop variant with RKL (limited to 32EUs) is surprisingly good. But, goddamn, the Vulkan performance is trash when compared to OpenGL. Annoyingly, the Gallium Nine state tracker (which has great performance as a D3D9 to OpenGL wrapper) can have issues with Xe HW (shows garbage on the screen) when used with Gamescope and in some games like Warcraft III classic while my AMD RX 7600 works fine.
If all I cared about was general compute (OpenCL et al), Intel is a great pick. If all I cared about was video decoding / encoding, Intel is again, a great pick. But for games... Intel is hit and miss. So much so, that AMD is the better choice. But AMD HW has its own issues--especially on Windows. I actually like using an Intel iGPU with an AMD dGPU. But, sadly, an Nvidia card would be simpler and perform better. If I was still using Windows, I would have stuck with Nvidia, but having moved to Linux I'll be buying AMD (CPUs and GPUs) for the foreseeable future.Last edited by the-burrito-triangle; 23 December 2024, 10:18 PM.
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I wonder if you could run benchmarks testing I915 vs XE on these cards, They do report that i915 is compatible and im wondering if some driver issues are related to XE.
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Originally posted by NeoMorpheus View PostFunny how neither the windows nor linux fanbois are trashing the horrible drivers that all Arc gpus have so far.
Oh thats right, only AMD have bad drivers…
Snide aside, I do find that interesting how these things keep getting so much praise just because its a bit cheaper.
And here's a dose of reality for you:
Phoronix: Windows 11 vs. Linux Benchmarks For Intel Arc B-Series "Battlemage" Shows Strengths & Weaknesses Last week with the availability of the Intel Arc B-Series Battlemage graphics cards I ran benchmarks looking at the GPU compute performance, Linux gaming benchmarks, and also the workstation graphics
Read all about people's disappointment with Xe's Vulkan performance.
I also have an AMD RX 7600, which is ran "headless" with an intel RKL Xe iGPU as the primary card connected to my monitor. Intel has waaaaay better video decoding and OpenCL support than AMD, while AMD has waaaaay better Vulkan driver and gaming performance (pre Battlemage).
The AMD Windows drivers are absolute trash. The first time I put my RX 7600 in my machine and installed the drivers it crashed Windows 10. In Linux, the card worked fine from day one. I no longer use Windows, so I don't really know if they have improved since then. But I also don't really care anymore. So meh.Last edited by the-burrito-triangle; 24 December 2024, 12:45 AM.
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