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  • #11
    You have to love marketing weenies, the graphs compare a 4060 8gb that costs under $300 depending on who you buy from with a 16gb 7600 XT and in DLSS quality mode the results are pretty close, with Nvidia even winning some of them.

    It's only when we compare the other modes, where I am guessing memory capacity comes into play, that AMD wins handily.

    As someone else pointed out, for me the smart play is an Arc based card from Intel that can be had for under $150.

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    • #12
      Who does not have 1080P GPU after last 10 years or so? WHY this exists?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Eudyptula View Post
        It's kind of "amusing" to me that Nvidia took the open standard by VESA ("Adaptive Sync") and made it into a proprietary one and then required a $100 dollar markup from a G-Sync board in all monitors with that feature‚Äč
        You are WRONG! It was $250

        (I know because I paid it.)

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        • #14
          Originally posted by panikal View Post

          This was true with my RX6600, aka AMD SAM / REBAR boosted my frame rates by 20%. I've read nvidia is more spotty perhaps but with my amd stack is was definitely required. Generally any newer motherboard should support this too I thought, like in the last 2-3 years ish?
          There's a misinterpretation of the word required here. Your card doesn't require ReBAR / SAM, but you get a very nice performance boost in many games. For ARC, ReBAR / SAM is basically a hard requirement for usable 3D performance. You can put it in an old system without ReBAR / SAM and you'll get a display output and you can use the excellent media encode / decode capabilities. But even the A770 is useless for gaming without ReBAR / SAM.

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          • #15
            This whole generation of cards from both Nvidia and AMD is depressing. Unless you have a hard requirement for the AV1 encoder, I'd rather have a $320 RX 6700 XT. If you need 16GB of VRAM, you can pick up a RX 6800 for $400 and get a vastly more powerful card.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by khnazile View Post
              Can we have a 35W RX7300 please?
              But why? You could spend the extra money that this hypothetical RX 7300 would cost and get a better APU that would offer similar GPU performance. Now a single slot 75W bus powered card would be interesting. With 75W all to itself and more than an order of magnitude more space to work with, you should be able to make something significantly faster than what the APU would offer.

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              • #17
                upscaling
                Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                Meh. Not really good enough for many modern games, but too expensive if you don't play games. And AMD is doing the Nvidia thing now where they use resolution upscaling and frame rate interpolation in their charts to show off how much FPS you're getting, completely hiding the actual performance of the GPU.

                I guess we can't have nice things anymore. You either get ripped off by AMD for mediocre performance, or you need to sell a kidney, an arm and a leg for a higher perf Nvidia card. Maybe Intel's future GPUs will bring something worth looking at.
                I don't blame AMD, nor Nvidia for this. I blame the user base who demand upscaling and frame rate interpolation to such a degree, they are willing to pay an extra $100-$600 for press "reduce my resolution only to upscale it button please." Look at the Starfield drama over Bethesda only having FSR at release and not DLSS. I saw people with Nvidia 3080's and 3090's MAD they can't enable DLSS at 1080 / 1440p... both of those cards are able to run Starfield at max settings at those resolutions, natively, with no need for upscaling. BUT PEOPLE WANTED IT, and it HAD TO BE DLSS!

                It also doesn't help that you have reviewers, like hardware unbox stating "nvidia is worth $200-$300 more than AMD for upscaling!" and praising MSRP $1,600 GPU's like the 4090 having, AND NEEDING upscaling. $1,600 for a video card, to get a $300 level card experience of needing to reduce settings boggles my mind the most. The whole point in buying high end cards, let alone flagships, was for that no compromise experience. You don't need to reduce anything. You can max out the game's settings, and run it natively, and now you have people mad that they buy a $1,000 GPU and can't reduce their image settings by enabling upscaling... I don't get it, and it doesn't matter the amount of mental gymnastics I get from people, I will never get it, nor understand their mental gymnastics. But but my 4k!!! maybe its to soon for 4k still. Maybe dropping $1,600 for a card that still can't do native 4K is a bad investment. If you are going to enable upscaling because no matter what, you can't play native, then maybe just buy a cheaper card to get the same damn experience.

                Upscaling unfortunately is here to stay and with people clapping like seals for it, all it does is incentives manufacturers now to build their cards and set their tier class around needing an upscaler enabled now. I don't blame them, they don't have to worry about needing to squeeze maximum performance out of the card anymore. Just reduce your image settings with this neat, one button click! Gamers Nexus approves, says its better than native!!! And with 2020 showing people are willing to sacrifice their first born for a video card, and enabled scalpers, people are more than willing to pay stupid prices for stupid features and stupid cards. As much as people whine about the prices, they still go out there and buy 4090's and 4080's. And 4070's.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by RealNC View Post

                  You are WRONG! It was $250

                  (I know because I paid it.)
                  Damn, we were both wrong! G-Sync modules can cost up to $500 (HDR-variant)!
                  (According to a quick search returning articles claiming $100-500 markup cost for the monitor OEM, depending on the module.)

                  For a display input controller board. I bought a 1080p 280 Hz IPS-LCD monitor with VRR and "HDR"400 for around half of that.

                  Nvidia is so modest.
                  Last edited by Eudyptula; 08 January 2024, 05:18 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by panikal View Post

                    This was true with my RX6600, aka AMD SAM / REBAR boosted my frame rates by 20%. I've read nvidia is more spotty perhaps but with my amd stack is was definitely required. Generally any newer motherboard should support this too I thought, like in the last 2-3 years ish?
                    I have a MSI B350 Tomahawk that I thought would never get REBAR, but after like 3-4 years they finally updated the bios and now it has Rebar. I did it and switched over to UEFI because Linux plus Vega 56 should give some performance benefits. I know the Omega drivers for AMD pretty much do the same thing on Windows.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by ColdDistance View Post

                      The Arc A770 can be cheaper, but ANV, the Vulkan driver for Intel GPUs, is still a bad toy compared to RADV.
                      That's the problem with Intel in that their drivers are just not as good as AMD's in Linux. As it is right now the GPU market is stupid because nobody offers a sub $250 GPU with more than 8GB of VRAM. A 6600XT can be had for $240 new. An RTX 3060 12GB card is about $285 new. A RX 7600 8GB is $270 new. The A770 16GB is $300 new. The RX 6700 10GB cards don't exist, because people bought them all up. The RX 6700 XT 12GB is available at $320 new.

                      Why would I buy the RX 7600 XT 16GB for $330 when the 6700 XT 12GB is $320? The whole point is getting more than 8GB of VRAM because modern games push beyond 8GB at 1080p. I would rather go for the RTX 3060 12GB because for $285 that's the best deal right now. As a Linux user I'd rather avoid dealing with Nvidia cards because their drivers don't always play nice. There are so many 8GB GPU's in the market that to even consider one right now is a waste of money, unless you don't have money. If you don't have money then it isn't going to be the 7600 XT or even the regular 8GB model. Probably better off buying a plain RX 6600 for $200. Aliexpres has RX 6600M's for $159 brand new. It's a Soyo brand based on a laptop GPU, or whatever that is, but when you're broke, you're broke. You can forget Ebay because for some reason the difference between a new and used GPU is $20-$30 at best. That isn't worth the headache and lack of warranty from what is likely a used mining GPU.
                      Last edited by Dukenukemx; 08 January 2024, 09:09 PM.

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