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  • pinguinpc
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    Originally posted by jaxa View Post
    The ball is in AMD's court. I think they are more likely to launch a 16 GB variant of a 7600 XT now.
    If appears dont be pass 300us for 16gb will be good because now rx 6700/6700 xt stay more closer to 300us and have more horsepower according specs than RX 6600/7600

    Personally if amd give some liberty to manufacturers a RX 6700 non xt with 20gb of ram on 400us (or rx 6700xt with 24gb) will be very interesting



    Last edited by pinguinpc; 18 May 2023, 08:53 PM.

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  • blackiwid
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    As I said I addressed the 1080p lead, you pretend the article would have contradicted what I wrote it did not:
    Originally posted by blackiwid View Post
    Only in irrelevant fullhd resolution is the 4070ti in front of the 7900xt in RT
    Again you can argue that 1080p is important for a 700-800 dollar card in 2023, I just think most people who want to play in 1080p will not pay so much money for a graphics card.
    Last edited by blackiwid; 18 May 2023, 07:50 PM.

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  • Grinness
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    Originally posted by avis View Post

    NVIDIA doesn't prevent anyone from writing user space libraries for their open kernel modules. In fact the NVK project has been exactly that.

    The "problem" with NVIDIA is that their driver and user space are near perfect despite all the screams to the contrary here. Yeah, their are regressions, missing features here and there but NVIDIA is a commercial company which serves its commercial customers who primarily use Windows.

    AMD has a ton of open source here and there but from what I've heard in terms of quality it's nowhere near to what NVIDIA offers.

    In short, if you love the idea of open source, great, Intel and AMD will happily serve you.
    If you love the idea of having a top notch driver and features, well, NVIDIA is there for you.

    Blaming NVIDIA for not releasing a complete open source stack for an obscure OS which has zero customers on the desktop is kinda irrational IMO. Yes, I'm not joking. Show me Linux users who actually buy software and services (aside from rare Hollywood studios using NVIDIA cards for Optix/rendering).

    At the same time NVIDIA sells literally tens of thousands H100 accelerators (priced from $15K) which primarily run headless distributed CUDA workflows. Tell me again why they need to "properly" support Linux with almost no commercial CUDA software and wildly unstable APIs.

    Linux fans' "We want open source" is not something NVIDIA is interested in. They are in the business of making money.
    what a pile of non-sense

    Gentle reminder, fly away little bird(ie)

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  • jaxa
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    The bus width probably doesn't matter, because these Lovelace cards have the equivalent of Infinity Cache in the form of massively increased L2 cache. Other than that, meh.

    The ball is in AMD's court. I think they are more likely to launch a 16 GB variant of a 7600 XT now.

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  • doomie
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    Just throwing this in here. Price/perf is as embarrassing as the renaming/"tier-shift," but I don't think nvidia is nearly as concerned about short-term 40xx sales as they are about remaining 30xx overstock. For anything they do sell in the new gen, that keeps an old gen card on the shelves, they at east make a nice extra profit at these prices. I think it'll work out just fine for them, and long-term the powers that be want us renting everything anyway, so your not being able to afford to outright buy an entry-level next next gen might be just fine with them too.

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  • user1
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    Originally posted by doomie View Post
    I already have very capable CPUs in plenty capable systems, but GPU is the bottleneck for most things.
    I'm exactly in the same boat.. I have an i7 8700k which was the fastest mainstream CPU at least for a few months since its release and it's still a beast. No way in hell I'm upgrading my CPU in the next few years.

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  • citral
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    Originally posted by avis View Post

    I need to start collecting ad hominems, insults and name calling on these forums just so that people perfectly realized who Linux fans are.

    There's no other forum, social network or place on WWW where I've seen and received so much naked hostility and aggression. 4chan is simply a warm calm welcoming place after Phoronix forums. I'm sad the ignore list doesn't work here but Michael doesn't seem to care. But he sure damn cares when someone speaks the truth and he's so eager and ready to ban people for that.



    I won't buy it, I'm waiting for something decent from AMD this time around but I'm not sure they are even interested in competing any longer considering the two flops called 7900 XT and XTX that are barely better in terms of performance per buck than the previous gen.

    Consumer graphics for both companies has become an after thought and Intel is not yet there.
    I'm always puzzled regarding people who can't leave a place they consider toxic and feel the need to keep posting ad eternam. I left facebook a decade ago and my life has only been better since, you know. Consider just packing it, it will do everyone a big favor.

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  • avis
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    Originally posted by blackiwid View Post
    Yeah even if we ignore Linux that card(s) are total trash (price value), and then you add the bad linux driver sitution on top of it... and it's a no brainer... I rather buy the 16gb Intel even their linux driver are worse than the already bad windows drivers
    From what I've heard Intel Linux GPU drivers are actually decent though there's no Control Panel which is available in Windows but that's applicable to AMD and a lesser extent NVIDIA (the Linux control panel is nowhere near close to what their Windows drivers offer).

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  • avis
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    Originally posted by blackiwid View Post

    How are they flops at least here the 7900 XT is cheaper than the 4070ti, of course it's faster even in RT performance has enough Vram and the only thing is that here in germany where we have to pay money for power consumption not like basically free like in the US you have to limit the desktop to 60hz otherwise it draws to much power, otherwise it's just the better card in every single way than the 4070ti and cheaper.
    Better in raster, price and having open source drivers however worse in:
    • Worse power efficiency (isn't that important in Germany?)
    • Insanely high idle power consumption for certain monitor configurations (likewise)
    • Worse RTRT performance (likewise)
    • No DLSS (likewise)
    • No CUDA
    • No AI [features]
    Did you know that enabling DLSS and forcing VSync/certain maximum refresh rate makes NVIDIA cards even more power efficient? I bet you didn't.

    It makes sense to sometimes think outside of the Open Source cozy bubble/AMD fanboyism and admit that other companies can create better though more expensive products.

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  • blackiwid
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    Yeah even if we ignore Linux that card(s) are total trash (price value), and then you add the bad linux driver sitution on top of it... and it's a no brainer... I rather buy the 16gb Intel even their linux driver are worse than the already bad windows drivers

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