AMD's RX7900 XT*, I am not impressed

[Horigo]

Well, since I don't agree to pay = bad price, this proves my point

Yes bad price for you but good price for me !

[dimko]

The good price is the price the user is agree to pay
Everybody is intelligent enough, to know the price he is agree to pay or not
And if the users don't buy, the prices will go down

And it's not a car btw you can't compare with cars

Well, since I don't agree to pay = bad price, this proves my point

[Horigo]

The good price is the price the user is agree to pay
Everybody is intelligent enough, to know the price he is agree to pay or not
And if the users don't buy, the prices will go down

And it's not a car btw you can't compare with cars

[dimko]

i have a 7900XT and its great. But you just have to know when you buy it that it should be called 7800XT
Its a good 7800XT for the price i am happy with it.

Anything above 500$, I can't call good value. I came from times when TI cards cost like 300$. I understand, inflation and all.
But by this rationale, GPU are not something you depend on.
If GPU makers gonna make GPUs in worse economy, they should concentrate NOT on speed increases with significant increase in price, but rather on delivering same/similar performance for smaller price. Let me guess, in today days more people buy a Ford as compared to Porsche.
I am consumer, so I am always right.

[Horigo]

i have a 7900XT and its great. But you just have to know when you buy it that it should be called 7800XT
Its a good 7800XT for the price i am happy with it.

[dimko]

7900XT is a good competitor with the 4070TI
A little more powerfull in raster and a just little less powerfull in RT

Problem with this is ̶ ̶4̶0̶8̶0̶ ̶1̶2̶G̶B̶ 4070TI is awful card, as is. Thats why they cancelled it first then decreased pricing on it and you can still find it at MSRP.
So saying that 7900XT competes with 4070TI - does not say much.

[dimko]

On Moore's law is dead a chart is being displayed where significant power savings are made when capping framerates with newer drivers, as opposed to the launch drivers. He suggested that AMD was not ready with the drivers at launch time, in addition to the vaporchamber hardware issue which i believe he said about 10% of the cards had. I hope it all comes out fine after a few months after launch time, and it will be an excellent competitor to nVidia when considering the price.

Yeah, ages like wine MAY BE true here. Time will tell. And at this time i am waiting another month before I am upgrading, unless my GPU dies on me.

[Horigo]

7900XT is a good competitor with the 4070TI
A little more powerfull in raster and a just little less powerfull in RT

And its a little confusing, it looks like amd and nvidia have talk together, the two cards are so near in performances

[Velocity]

On Moore's law is dead a chart is being displayed where significant power savings are made when capping framerates with newer drivers, as opposed to the launch drivers. He suggested that AMD was not ready with the drivers at launch time, in addition to the vaporchamber hardware issue which i believe he said about 10% of the cards had. I hope it all comes out fine after a few months after launch time, and it will be an excellent competitor to nVidia when considering the price.

[dimko]

Except I'm not talking about individuals but companies. AIB partners could pretty easily sell 2.7, 2.8 or 2.9Ghz AMD cards if they want to. That's the deal that AMD made with them: AMD makes "mild" reference cards, and leaves the AIBs with a ton of elbow room to customise as they want.

Problem with this statement is, once AIBs have overclocked original design and slapped a better cooler, 2 things happened:
1. Power consumption went up, which is minor annoyance.
2. for 10%-15% performance# increase there will be 20%-25% price increase, and suddenly 1000$ card becomes 1250%, which is now in 4080 territory. And if you are there, you may as well get 4090.