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  • #11
    Already heard GPU makers leaving partners to bear the post-mining situation, and after upping prices on them to get more of the mining money too. That over-investment tho... NVIDIA also already known for treating people like 5#!7, so altogether not surprising news.

    Still..

    'F' .w.
    Last edited by doomie; 16 September 2022, 06:14 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by V1tol View Post
      Yep. Called "videocard prices". They were super expensive and nobody was buying cards that are even more expensive. More shock would be to see such announcement from Palit for example.
      Some of EVGA's alleged complaints: FE undercutting, severe restrictions, and a lack of a way to address these issues with Nvidia.

      These should theoretically affect all GPU OEMs, and I can see them being unhappy about it too (even if they aren't willing exit the space over it).

      Also, many of EVGA's "base" GPUs were about the same price as other base models (though TBH I have not been paying attention to RTX 3000 pricing).




      ...Anyway, this is not surprising. Oldschool tech sites have reported on Nvidia's toxic relationship with manufacturers for years, and something finally gave.
      Last edited by brucethemoose; 16 September 2022, 06:00 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by qarium View Post

        on the topic EVGA it could mean RDNA3 is so good that Nvidia loses its pole position and EVGA is now making RDNA3 GPUs...
        EVGA said they are exiting the GPU business.


        TBH this event has nothing to do with AMD or Intel.
        Last edited by brucethemoose; 16 September 2022, 06:01 PM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by qarium View Post
          in your world amd would be bankrupted instantly and nvidia would be the only gpu manufacturer around.
          no, they would simply support their cards
          only because you can't stand the stop of active development of x480/580/590 cards in the ROCm/HIP driver.
          No. man do you ever listen? a card I paid for being effectively EOL'd so soon for a major use case sucks. AMD doesn't have amf hevc support for it either, it's also missing critical vulkan extensions I need for features that I very much want. as well as other misc gripes that have added up over the years. ROCm is simply the final nail, as I have said
          on the topic EVGA it could mean RDNA3 is so good that Nvidia loses its pole position and EVGA is now making RDNA3 GPUs...​

          No it doesn't watch GNs video on it
          because unlike nvidia amd is able to ship an effective chiplet design with stagged 3D cache beating the GDDR6x patent monopole.

          and?
          looks like radeon 7900XT with GDDR6 Vram with 256mb infinity cache and 756mb stagged 3D cache will beat the shit out of nvidia.

          dont care

          for someone who doesn't think before typing, you sure type a lot.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by V1tol View Post
            Yep. Called "videocard prices". They were super expensive and nobody was buying cards that are even more expensive. More shock would be to see such announcement from Palit for example.
            With Nvidia doing price gouging by charging more to the partners? Maybe others would. Either that or the company mention does enough volume to be able to withstand another cycle but that remains to be seen.

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            • #16
              My respect for EVGA just went up -- after 10 years with them I was not keen on their nvidia products the last 5 years and switched to AMD.

              I can see from their limited comments that they were also unhappy with a lopsided partnership. EVGA is back on my radar, I wouldn't mind seeing what their future plans are -- and good for them for being willing to pivot and make big decisions as needed.

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              • #17
                I highly recommend to everyone watching both GN and JTC videos, they offer slightly different perspective on the same topic since they were both invited to the meeting.

                - manufacturers get to know nvidia gpu prices when leather jacket goes on stage (you know, the gpus they've ordered and already manufactured cards with)
                - they don't even get the damn drivers(!) before the press does, "because muh leakz"
                - leather jacket apparently thinks they should be thankful and kissing nvidia's ass for being treated like trash

                Jayz put it best, calling it abusive relationship. How the hell do you run your business when dealing with a "partner" like nvidia?

                I'm just kinda worried about Nintendo's relationship with nvidia now, since I'm planning to buy Switch Lite and expect them to release next nvidia-based Switch down the line (they have to, because of backward compatibility - they're using specific low-level nvidia api and running that efficiently on other gpus, while possible, could be more trouble than its worth). Microsoft tried dealing with nvidia already, during the first Xbox era, and that didn't go well. Of course big corporations like Nintendo or Microsoft can handle it, but with nvidia strongarming everyone into submission it's likely not that different. If Nintendo plans to use AI-based upscaler in their next Switch, they're screwed - they need ARM SoC with decent GPU, AI accelerator and software solution supporting it - and nvidia is the only company that has all three (FSR runs on regular shader cores and likely wouldn't be energy-efficient enough for mobile use).

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by unic0rn View Post
                  I highly recommend to everyone watching both GN and JTC videos,
                  What are those ? Where ? Everybody mention them as if it was obvious what those mean and where those vids are.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by unic0rn View Post
                    I highly recommend to everyone watching both GN and JTC videos, they offer slightly different perspective on the same topic since they were both invited to the meeting.

                    - manufacturers get to know nvidia gpu prices when leather jacket goes on stage (you know, the gpus they've ordered and already manufactured cards with)
                    - they don't even get the damn drivers(!) before the press does, "because muh leakz"
                    - leather jacket apparently thinks they should be thankful and kissing nvidia's ass for being treated like trash

                    Jayz put it best, calling it abusive relationship. How the hell do you run your business when dealing with a "partner" like nvidia?

                    I'm just kinda worried about Nintendo's relationship with nvidia now, since I'm planning to buy Switch Lite and expect them to release next nvidia-based Switch down the line (they have to, because of backward compatibility - they're using specific low-level nvidia api and running that efficiently on other gpus, while possible, could be more trouble than its worth). Microsoft tried dealing with nvidia already, during the first Xbox era, and that didn't go well. Of course big corporations like Nintendo or Microsoft can handle it, but with nvidia strongarming everyone into submission it's likely not that different. If Nintendo plans to use AI-based upscaler in their next Switch, they're screwed - they need ARM SoC with decent GPU, AI accelerator and software solution supporting it - and nvidia is the only company that has all three (FSR runs on regular shader cores and likely wouldn't be energy-efficient enough for mobile use).
                    Nintendo could do what apple did and make their own silicon. That takes time though, so very unlikely until the generation after that at the earliest.

                    But Nintendo is just as bad a company as nvidia. Very consumer and content creator unfriendly. Completely killed my interest in their games, which is a shame. Breath of the wild looked good.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by qarium View Post
                      on the topic EVGA it could mean RDNA3 is so good that Nvidia loses its pole position and EVGA is now making RDNA3 GPUs...
                      They said repeatedly that they are not interested in partnering with AMD or Intel. Maybe that could change, but as of right now, they are cutting away 78% of their business.

                      Originally posted by orzel View Post

                      What are those ? Where ? Everybody mention them as if it was obvious what those mean and where those vids are.
                      Gamers Nexus
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV9QES-FUAM

                      JayzTwoCents
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12Hcbx33Rb4

                      Jon Peddie Research
                      https://www.jonpeddie.com/news/evga-...ext-gen-series

                      Originally posted by Vorpal View Post
                      Breath of the wild looked good.
                      Pirate it, play it at a higher resolution than is possible on the Switch. :P

                      Last edited by jaxa; 16 September 2022, 08:04 PM.

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