AMD Radeon RX 6500 XT Linux Performance

[birdie]

WTF? So, it's basically a Pi v3 in a laptop chassis at a 35x markup? No thanks. I was expecting to see like a MediaTek-based chromebook with A76 cores, at least.

Not to mention that I haven't seen a laptop that chunky for like 30 years.

They also might've found about the only GPU IP worse than the Pi's!

but but but ... it's open source! Tinfoil hat wearers must be happy!

[JPFSanders]

WTF? So, it's basically a Pi v3 in a laptop chassis at a 35x markup? No thanks. I was expecting to see like a MediaTek-based chromebook with A76 cores, at least.

Not to mention that I haven't seen a laptop that chunky for like 30 years.

They also might've found about the only GPU IP worse than the Pi's!

Don't mind chunkiness on devices, but the performance is sad. My god, I'm agreeing with Birdie on something!?

[otoomet]

Would 6500xt be a good 4GB desktop-mainly card with a little punch for minecraft and such? I'd love to see its power consumption when idling, and whether it spins down the fans when only showing static image.

wx-3100 is pretty good, but it is ~$230 these days so not much savings here. It also keeps it's fan at 1800+ rpm all the time.

[jaxa]

Why 4GiB? Why!? With 8GiB this would have had some worth.

Keeps it cheaper since VRAM prices are up, and keeps it from being attractive to miners.

[gentoofu]

Considering the price increase on BOM, shipping, and not to mention the 25% hit tariffs for cards imported from China, it's silly to compare to pre-shortage/pre-pandemic prices without mentioning those factors out.

[artivision]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/jpr-q3-2021-desktop-discrete-gpu-shipments

Just look how methodical are the deeps over the years and why the prices are inflated, not just now. Nvidia is top trash over the years and Amd recently tried to get everyone as a customer for custom designs including Sony, MS, Tesla, China and others. So you could say specifically for this crisis that it's not Scalpers, Miners, Covid, Gpu, Car, TSMC, Chip crisis but an Amd alone crisis. Amd wants to satisfy big customers who don't pay TSMC for their yields prematurely. If Amd don't repay us with Rdna3 price/performance numbers this year then they are over.

[birdie]

Considering the price increase on BOM, shipping, and not to mention the 25% hit tariffs for cards imported from China, it's silly to compare to pre-shortage/pre-pandemic prices without mentioning those factors out.

This is a 100mm chip, sir and normally it's the most expensive part along with GDDR RAM. It shouldn't cost AMD more than $35 at most. This card MSRP is just insane and if I were to buy a new gaming rig now I'd just avoid buying any GPUs. They are all ridiculously overpriced.

[wertigon]

The only silver lining with the 6500 XT is that it is dragging the 6600 and 6600 XT down in price too.

[smitty3268]

Did you see where it soundly beat GTX 1650? With both being 4 GB cards, I fail to see how you can recommend it or any of the other Radeon cards in your list.

I think you need to reread my comment.

I both recommended a 6600 for those who could afford it, as well as the 6500XT over the 1650 for those limited in budget to only looking at 4GB cards.

I think the 1660 Super (at 6GB) is still the superior choice for people who can afford it but not the 6600, since it has more memory plus better performance overall, and I specifically called it out because I think that level of card is much less limited than the 6500XT is.

[smitty3268]

This is a 100mm chip, sir and normally it's the most expensive part along with GDDR RAM. It shouldn't cost AMD more than $35 at most. This card MSRP is just insane and if I were to buy a new gaming rig now I'd just avoid buying any GPUs. They are all ridiculously overpriced.

GPU silicon for this card is cheap, but memory prices are not and neither is shipping anything anywhere right now.

I've seen the estimates at:
$18 for silicon
$50 for the board
$48 for memory
$15 for cooler
$30 for shipping

That's $160 with no markup at all, and typically AMD/NVidia have pretty hefty markups on top of that for profit. Right now their partners are the ones taking massive profit though.


As opposed to a 4GB 5500XT at launch:
$28 for silicon
$40 for the board
$28 for memory
$10 for cooler
$5 for shipping

That's $110, for a card that was largely faster.