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  • qarium
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    Originally posted by hiryu View Post
    World of Warcraft Shadowlands is a singular example so far and therefore could be a unique case. Especially given how WoW still looks pretty simplistic especially be today's standards.
    Thanks for your help, and I'll keep digging.
    it is not an unique case... as soon as you do deeper research what kind of implementation the games use you will find that amd wins all raytracing benchmarks with the amd raytracing implementation.

    why should only nvidia get the benefit of an "nvidia implementation" it does not take 5 brain cells to imagine that it runs slower on amd hardware.

    i can search you more examples no problem.

    (Edit) for example Dirt 5 raytracing is also faster on a 6900XT than a 3090

    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...6900-xt-review

    and it is also AMD raytracing implementation:

    https://wccftech.com/amd-helped-godf...ly-noticeable/

    godfall should be faster on the 6900XT to because it is also amd implementation.
    Last edited by qarium; 08 February 2021, 06:14 PM.

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  • ResponseWriter
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    Can't help thinking the Nvidia results aren't quite as good as they can be, but it's a very good result for AMD either way. Just have to find a 6800 XT for a reasonable price.

    Originally posted by hiryu View Post
    I haven't bought an AMD GPU in ages... Any recommendations on the brand? I don't buy MSI anything as a general rule, but otherwise I'm probably open-minded to most others.
    Usually Sapphire Nitro+ and Powercolor Red Devil are the best AMD models, but XFX Speedster Merc and Asus TUF are both said to be very good for this generation of cards. Be aware they're all >31cm long.

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  • qarium
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    Originally posted by aufkrawall View Post
    Nvidia hits some weird CPU bound performance issue in WoW with RT. Also Watch Dogs Legion DX12 runs ~20% faster in CPU bound scenes on AMD, even without RT.
    well thank you for the info.. but in the end WHO FUCKING CARES WHY NVIDIA IS SLOWER LOL

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  • hiryu
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    Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post

    i read such comparisons in the past and i maybe post you some.

    you write "faster than the RTX 20 series"

    you just do not get the point. the 6900XT is 15% faster in raytracing than a 3090 as soon as the AMD implementation is used.

    games who use the AMD implementation is for example: world of warcraft of Blizzard

    see here are many raytracing benchmarks and in the AMD implemenation in world of warcraft AMD is much faster:

    https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Radeo...-3090-1363216/
    My point is that as long as it's a little faster than the previous generation, that's good enough for me. The bar for me to jump ship is relatively low. 15% faster than the current generation would obviously exceed my standard.

    World of Warcraft Shadowlands is a singular example so far and therefore could be a unique case. Especially given how WoW still looks pretty simplistic especially be today's standards.

    Thanks for your help, and I'll keep digging.

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  • Crashone
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    Originally posted by ms178 View Post

    What is the basis of accusing Michael of intentionally skewing his testing? Just because the numbers are different, doesn't mean Michael has done anything wrong or intentionally presenting these cards in a different light.
    Because it does not seem objective to me to say that AMD has increased in performance without specifying that in the same time that of NVIDIA decreased and conclude" To much surprise overall the Radeon RX 6800 manages to effectively tie with the GeForce RTX 3080 overall while the RX 6800 XT had around a 12% advantage in these benchmarks conducted." If we compare the best results of the two cards, then Nvidia is still ahead. This does not undermine the wonderful work of the community which has managed to get the best performance from AMD cards. I myself own a 6800xt and I am delighted to get such results.


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  • aufkrawall
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    Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
    see here are many raytracing benchmarks and in the AMD implemenation in world of warcraft AMD is much faster:

    https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Radeo...-3090-1363216/
    Nvidia hits some weird CPU bound performance issue in WoW with RT. Also Watch Dogs Legion DX12 runs ~20% faster in CPU bound scenes on AMD, even without RT.

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  • qarium
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    Originally posted by hiryu View Post
    Absolutely! I am aware of all of this, and I should have been more clear in my previous post.
    If AMD's ray tracing implementation is faster than the RTX 20 series' in cases where both are optimized for their respective platforms... I can live with that, and I will likely pull the trigger.
    Presently, I'm searching the web to find such comparisons right now. If anyone has good ones to share, I'd appreciate it!
    i read such comparisons in the past and i maybe post you some.

    you write "faster than the RTX 20 series"

    you just do not get the point. the 6900XT is 15% faster in raytracing than a 3090 as soon as the AMD implementation is used.

    games who use the AMD implementation is for example: world of warcraft of Blizzard

    see here are many raytracing benchmarks and in the AMD implemenation in world of warcraft AMD is much faster:

    https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Radeo...-3090-1363216/

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  • ms178
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    Originally posted by Crashone View Post
    These results are misleading. It seems above all that the Nvidia graphics cards has drastically lost in performance compared to November 2020. For instance, in F1 2017, the 3080 fell from 183fps to 163fps in 2160p high preset, from 97fps to 92 fps in Shadow of the Tomb Raider (High), from 142 to 136fps in Total War (Low), etc.
    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...0-linux&num=11
    What is the basis of accusing Michael of intentionally skewing his testing? Just because the numbers are different, doesn't mean Michael has done anything wrong or intentionally presenting these cards in a different light. These numbers reflect the current state of these cards with the current driver, Proton, BIOS and game versions. Regressions can happen over time, also minor differences could be attributed to some run-to-run variance, different BIOS or Kernel versions or any other of all the variables which might have an impact on performance which are different between the last and today's testing.

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  • Volta
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    Originally posted by Crashone View Post
    These results are misleading. It seems above all that the Nvidia graphics cards has drastically lost in performance compared to November 2020. For instance, in F1 2017, the 3080 fell from 183fps to 163fps in 2160p high preset, from 97fps to 92 fps in Shadow of the Tomb Raider (High), from 142 to 136fps in Total War (Low), etc.
    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...0-linux&num=11
    There's nothing misleading there. Blame nvidia for your lost performance. Another birdie's account?

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  • Crashone
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    These results are misleading. It seems above all that the Nvidia graphics cards has drastically lost in performance compared to November 2020. For instance, in F1 2017, the 3080 fell from 183fps to 163fps in 2160p high preset, from 97fps to 92 fps in Shadow of the Tomb Raider (High), from 142 to 136fps in Total War (Low), etc.
    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...0-linux&num=11

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