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  • L_A_G
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    Originally posted by smartalgorithm View Post
    it's interesting... wasn't rDNA specifically designed from scratch for gaming and desktop use?
    These kinds of GPUs are so general purpose there is no such thing as something designed from scratch for a specific use. Only thing you can do to specialize is very the amount of dedicated raster and geometry hardware in relation to the general purpose GPU cores, but that's it. You're not completely on the wrong track as Navi supposedly has more dedicated raster hardware in relation to the general purpose GPU cores than Vega. However rDNA is the name of the overall architecture, including the general purpose GPU cores, which are the exact same ones across the entire range.

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  • cb88
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    Originally posted by smartalgorithm View Post
    it's interesting... wasn't rDNA specifically designed from scratch for gaming and desktop use?
    Yes but but the differentiation between Gaming and Workstation cards has always been artificial. They simply have drivers that are certified to have been tested with the software.

    The split AMD has done actually with Navi and Arcturus isn't between gaming and workstation, but Graphics and Compute.... workstations generally don't need compute cards unless they are doing some sort of AI or Simulation etc.. that happens to use OpenCL. The Gaming/Graphics cards can do this also but not as well as a compute focused card will be able to once it is launched. Arcturus won't even have graphics output at all... probably not even ROPs since it doesn't do raster, only compute.

    Also the Pro cards typically come with a single slot cooler so they fit more easily into workstations.

    The truth is neither gaming or workstation markets are large enough to deserve dedicated hardware.. so they sell them the same hardware since both groups have basically identical needs anyway, that said if you need ECC you end up having to get a high end workstation card instead of one of the mid range ones typically.

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  • ddriver
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    Originally posted by smartalgorithm View Post
    it's interesting... wasn't rDNA specifically designed from scratch for gaming and desktop use?
    There ain't anything different about this GPU other than some driver flags which engineering apps read to enable the "pro" functionality, which is perfectly possible to run on pretty much every gpu. It is one of the biggest scams in the industry.

    It used to be that professional gpus had advanced hardware capabilities, but that was back in the days of the fixed function pipeline, ever since gpus went programmable, "professional graphics" is all just smoke and mirrors. GPU vendors have to pay software vendors for "validation" as in "allow it to run the pro code path", in turn they get to ask a significant, in many cases ridiculous price premium over functionality that otherwise just sits dormant.

    The most effort in this field was really put into preventing the modding of consumer graphics to work with pro drivers with a mere graphite pencil like in the good old days.

    This doesn't even have ecc memory. It is a professional product in name only.
    Last edited by ddriver; 19 November 2019, 02:14 PM.

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  • smartalgorithm
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    it's interesting... wasn't rDNA specifically designed from scratch for gaming and desktop use?

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  • phoronix
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    AMD Announces Radeon Pro W5700 RDNA Workstation Graphics Card

    Phoronix: AMD Announces Radeon Pro W5700 RDNA Workstation Graphics Card

    In addition to AMD's SC19 announcements yesterday, their embargo just lifted on the Radeon Pro W5700 as their first 7nm workstation graphics card build on their new RDNA architecture...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...deon-Pro-W5700
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