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  • #41
    Originally posted by debianxfce View Post

    The GPU temperature or card design has nothing to do with a reclamation. Sapphire cards (even vega64) have 2 year warranty here and in mindfactory reclamation rate is 1%. So mindfactory data proves nothing.
    That is not what I was referring to, you said "Asus has the best quality products with 3 year warranty here." - and that reclamation rate does not speak for "best quality" in my eyes for that particular model you mentioned even though their warrenty is one year longer. If that model has a design flaw, your replacement card wouldn't even solve your issues either. Even their higher end Vega 56 and 64 had issues with high VRM temperatures due to a cheap thermal pad which doesn't even cover all of the VRMs. They also have higher quality products, sure. But buying decisions based on the brand or length of warrenty alone are not highly reliable. Their low-end motherboards are also a rip off - you buy for the brand name, not for quality there.
    Last edited by ms178; 05-08-2019, 02:46 PM.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by ms178 View Post
      Their low-end motherboards are also a rip off - you buy for the brand name, not for quality there.
      I have used nothing but Asus low-end motherboards in recent years. Bios is updated often and you can use the Bios to update it via internet or use a small fat partition. ASUSTeK model: PRIME B350M-K is so popular that the price did increase. It is a high quality product as are other Asus products. You seem to be a msi or sapphire sales man. I have burned one msi motherboard and one gpu card because of intel E2060 overclocking. I did return the gigabyte B350 gaming 3 motherboard because it did not boot after flashing latest bios and safe dual bios is nonsense in that product.

      https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PR...0M-K/overview/

      Phoronix buys Asus products too.
      Last edited by debianxfce; 05-09-2019, 01:48 AM.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by debianxfce View Post

        I have used nothing but Asus low-end motherboards in recent years. Bios is updated often and you can use the Bios to update it via internet or use a small fat partition. ASUSTeK model: PRIME B350M-K is so popular that the price did increase. It is a high quality product as are other Asus products. You seem to be a msi or sapphire sales man. I have burned one msi motherboard and one gpu card because of intel E2060 overclocking. I did return the gigabyte B350 gaming 3 motherboard because it did not boot after flashing latest bios and safe dual bios is nonsense in that product.

        https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PR...0M-K/overview/

        Phoronix buys Asus products too.
        Don't get me wrong. I don't have strong feelings about any brand. I do love quality for a fair price though and I even own and still operate a Asus P6T Deluxe V2 which is 9 years old with a OCed Westmere-Xeon. The quality is amazing, but it wasn't cheap either at that time.

        And of course for your use cases the Prime B350M-K might be just fine. For me, the non-cooling of the VRM's would be a no-go and there are 20% cheaper models with similar specs out there at least where I live.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by ms178 View Post
          . For me, the non-cooling of the VRM's would be a no-go and there are 20% cheaper models with similar specs out there at least where I live.
          The back fan of a Micro Atx case is above VRMs. Asrock mobos are 20% cheaper with similar specs out there at least where I live but they have 2 years warranty when Asus have 3 years.
          Last edited by debianxfce; 05-11-2019, 07:58 AM.

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          • #45
            Well, AMD Radeon RX series is the best budget graphics card with a good amount of performance in gaming.

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