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  • #21
    Using twice as much power as nVidia is nothing to be happy about.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by alex79 View Post
      Using twice as much power as nVidia is nothing to be happy about.
      Unless you just don't care.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by atomsymbol View Post

        Hi. What is your experience with RX 570 in terms of system stability?
        Stability, my RX 570 Gaming X has been pretty solid. The prior card I had (R7 260X) I had a real rough time with the Catalyst to amdgpu transition period. I did suffer a few oddities with my RX 570 initially (just some weird screen flickers during boot & occasionally in KDE), but that all vanished once DC landed (Kernel 4.15). I recently opted to do a fresh install of Kubuntu on my desktop when 19.04 got released (I normally just do an upgrade), and I have to do some more system configuration tuning. Right now, in Rise of the Tomb Raider my card's FPS is hanging out with Phoronix's RX 580, but Deus Ex I can barely hit 35fps @ 1920x1080 on low settings (which is way down from the old install) - everything else is inline to the article's RX 570. I'm using Kernel 5.1 (yep, I jumped on it pretty quick) and Oibaf's Mesa PPA. X is configured for DRI3, Tear Free, and Freesync. I'll have to play around this weekend to try and figure out what is making Deus Ex so unhappy.
        Last edited by nukedathlonman; 05-07-2019, 08:19 AM. Reason: Typo

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        • #24
          Strange, I own the RX 560 and I couldn't go beyond Medium 1080p in Bioshock Infinite, or it would get very laggy.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by alex79 View Post
            Using twice as much power as nVidia is nothing to be happy about.
            Twice as much? when did between 30% become twice as much? Though i agree with the sentiment that the polaris series draw to much power compared to the geforce.
            But it kind of depends on the where you values are... open source, with 30% extra power while gaming? or closed source with 30% less power while gaming...

            Kind regards
            B.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

              Yeah. Like how my Westmeres don't have AVX support. I'm sure that effects my results.
              Are there newer games out there today which mandate AVX support? I've heard just of a very small portion and that mostly due to DRM. Anything I threw at my Westmere worked so far. By the way, benchmarking them at stock clockspeeds would be pointless as well as everyone overclocks them to at least 4 Ghz.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by ms178 View Post

                Are there newer games out there today which mandate AVX support? I've heard just of a very small portion and that mostly due to DRM. Anything I threw at my Westmere worked so far. By the way, benchmarking them at stock clockspeeds would be pointless as well as everyone overclocks them to at least 4 Ghz.
                I don't have mine overclocked. They're in a dual processor workstation and run at stock clock speeds. FWIW, my x5687s are the fastest Westmere has to offer if we don't count the dual core 4.4ghz x5698.

                My GPU is also running at almost stock clock speeds...I "overclocked" the memory to what almost every other 580 ships with. Mine came with 1750mhz from the factory and I bumped it up to 2000mhz. Other than that, it's extremely undervolted...that high temperature heat exchanger comment wasn't a joke. I like my hardware to last so i try not to overclock at all.

                I know there's a PS4 emulator that needs AVX support...but apparently AVX is part of DX12 so it'll start being more common as DX12 becomes more common. Ubisoft has released a few games that didn't work on launch due to an AVX requirement, but later fixed with patches.

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                • #28
                  we will see next year if intel can compete with them

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by gukin View Post
                    I have a RX 570 and it is very stable.
                    Originally posted by nukedathlonman View Post
                    Stability, my RX 570 Gaming X has been pretty solid.
                    Originally posted by debianxfce View Post

                    My system is rock solid with the Asus Expedition OC RX 570 4GB card.
                    Code:
                    [email protected]:~$ inxi -bM
                    CPU:
                    6-Core: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 type: MT MCP speed: 3391 MHz
                    I bought RX 570 4G recently to (hopefully) increase system stability. It has been running stable in Linux so far. The chip is reported as RX 470 by glxinfo, so the manufacturer might have used an RX 470 chip in the card and sell it as RX 570 because of increasing memory frequency to effective 7GHz.

                    I had to turn off C-states, turn off Cool&Quiet, and fix the CPU frequency in BIOS to make Ryzen 1600 stable.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by atomsymbol View Post

                      I bought RX 570 4G recently to (hopefully) increase system stability. It has been running stable in Linux so far. The chip is reported as RX 470 by glxinfo, so the manufacturer might have used an RX 470 chip in the card and sell it as RX 570 because of increasing memory frequency to effective 7GHz.

                      I had to turn off C-states, turn off Cool&Quiet, and fix the CPU frequency in BIOS to make Ryzen 1600 stable.
                      Don't put too much stock into that. Polaris detection isn't that great. My 580 reports as a 580 by glxinfo with Mesa 19, it was a 480 with Mesa 18 last month, and random games think it's a 480 or a 580 (native and wine). Hitman 2, for example, was reporting it as a 480 yesterday until I built Proton myself from newer sources. Now Hitman 2 says I have a 580.

                      Edit: And to add. My 580 runs really damn stable. My only issue with it is how hot it runs by default. Lowered the voltages a bit and fixed that problem. I can see a 570 having similar heat issues.
                      Last edited by skeevy420; 05-07-2019, 09:34 AM.

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