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Last edited by shmerl; 08 October 2018, 10:43 AM.
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Originally posted by juno View PostAnd DisplayPort to DVI (and HDMI) adapters are a thing, they usually are even included in the package. So without daisy chaining I think there's still the possibility to drive 3 DVI monitors with a WX 2100 for 100€, which is half the price you mentioned. And you have the features of modern hardware - low power consumption, hardware-accelerated modern video de- and encoding, Vulkan, ... things you don't get if you buy an ancient Kepler-generation GeForce.
The search engine seems to have a bug, as it has the cards showing 3 digital outputs, but they don't show up in the search.
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Originally posted by shmerl View PostThey are competing with Nvidia. Just not in the gaming segment which is much smaller than compute / AI segment. It's hard to blame them, you can argue it's a reasonable investment of resources.
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Originally posted by Venemo View PostI had no idea that the compute segment was bigger than gaming!
Gaming: $1.8 billion
Datacenter: $760 million
Workstation/"Professional Visualization": $281 million
source: https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/n...er-fiscal-2019
And Nvidia sells much, much more to professionals than AMD does.
Another source is AMD, estimating a TAM (total addressable market) for low-end to mainstream of ~$10 billion and ~$3-4 billion for "premium and professional" - which still includes higher-end gaming cards not intended for professional use (taken from Vega presentation graph).Last edited by juno; 08 October 2018, 12:03 PM.
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Originally posted by juno View PostIt's a fact that AMD can't currently compete with Volta or Turing. Or even the high-end Pascals for that matter.
Even more relevant to readers of this forum, is the fact that AMD has highly competitive open source drivers, while NVidia does not and probably never will. As Linux does not generally get the latest AAA game titles anyways, absolute performance again doesn't matter. If the $149 AMD part gets 155 fps in most Linux Steam games, and the $149 Nvidia part gets 170 fps, who cares? That is not a difference that any human will ever notice, and any self-respecting FOSS geek will see the wisdom in selecting AMD.Last edited by torsionbar28; 08 October 2018, 12:26 PM.
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Good move by AMD. Nvidia doesn't launch the gtx 2060 until next year. Right now the rx580 and gtx 1060 are neck and neck.
this new release will put AMD firmly in the performance lead in this price segment well ahead of the gtx 1060. They have a good few months including holiday season to cash in on that.
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Originally posted by discordian View PostAnother 12nm GPU? Hmm, seems like their 7nm Navis are still several months away.
btw.: I considered buying a cheap Graphics card that can drive 3 displays, AMD has nothing below 200€ while I can get a Nvidia one for 50€. AMD, fix your lineup please.
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Not always but for a long time.
@torsionbar28: You responded to the wrong person. I've made a clear constraint to high performance products in my statement. Also for me, Nvidia is not competitive because of the drivers. But I represent an unimportant minority.
Nevertheless, those shiny high end products always also have an effect to the sales of smaller products in the portfolio. Nvidia is selling 3 for each of AMD's GPUs. Those are certainly not only high end ones.Last edited by juno; 08 October 2018, 02:42 PM.
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Originally posted by juno View Post
It isn't. Don't believe the made-up statements without a source. Gaming/consumer is by far the greatest market. Taking numbers from Nvidia:
Addressing NVIDIA and Intel Su said "high performance computing is a $75 billion market. We have an opportunity to address that entire market. We believe our technology is very competitive. The fact is there's a need for many solutions and our customers are saying they like our growth map and they're excited about what we have."Last edited by shmerl; 08 October 2018, 03:17 PM.
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