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A Closer Look At The GeForce GTX 1060 vs. Radeon RX 580 In Thrones of Britannia

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  • #11
    Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    but AFAICS the need to spend cubic megadollars on that is gradually going away as programming models and hardware models continue to converge.
    Originally posted by humbug View Post
    Can you elaborate on this?
    I guess the two main aspects are:

    1. GPU hardware architectures have converged on "scalar SIMD" as a consequence of needing to support compute as well as graphics. For graphics-only the VLIW SIMD model was arguably more efficient since essentially all of the work involved short vectors (typically 3- or 4-element) plus a scalar or two, but the vector size for compute varied widely and was usually very large, so a scalar instruction set ended up being more versatile although it did require relatively more control logic (program counters etc..) for a given number of ALUs.

    2. The biggest one IMO is the move away from older graphics APIs to newer ones like Vulkan and DX12 (probably Metal too, although I haven't looked at it much). OpenGL had become both sufficiently large and sufficiently old that there were just too many different ways to use the API, particularly with NVidia encouraging application developers to use compatibility profiles where the lack of standards more or less ensured a degree of vendor lock-in.

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    • #12
      GTX 1060 looked way better and indicates more efficient hardware. The RX 580's main competitor would be the gtx 1070 or 1080, btw, in Windows - at least? Not good.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Panix View Post
        GTX 1060 looked way better and indicates more efficient hardware.The RX 580's main competitor would be the gtx 1070 or 1080, btw, in Windows - at least? Not good.
        That doesn't sound even faintly correct. On average the 1060 and 580 perform pretty similarly on Windows; if anything the 1060 is a bit faster but also a bit more expensive. The 1070 and 1080 are getting up into the Vega price range.
        Last edited by bridgman; 07-29-2018, 04:27 PM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by bridgman View Post

          That doesn't sound even faintly correct. On average the 1060 and 580 perform pretty similarly on Windows; if anything the 1060 is a bit faster but also a bit more expensive. The 1070 and 1080 are getting up into the Vega price range.
          Prove it. I went by the benchmarks.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Panix View Post
            Prove it. I went by the benchmarks.
            Which benchmarks ? All the benchmarks I looked at showed 580 and 1060 performance on Windows to be pretty close. Here are a couple of examples - first two links below cover a variety of games, while the third link is specifically Thrones of Britannia, both on Windows.

            https://www.techspot.com/review/1393...orce-gtx-1060/

            https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...enchmarks-7001

            https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/...mance_review/9

            The relative performance on Windows and Linux seem pretty comparable from these tests.

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