Windows 10 vs. Ubuntu Linux With Radeon / GeForce GPUs On The Latest 2018 Drivers

[Goddard]

I did my own crappy tests on an AMD R9 290 and definately noticed most things run better on Windows even though it bugs me. Simple things like just watching a video perform much better under Windows. Things are just smoother and very responsive compared to Linux. I had to switch to Windows on that system because it was severally gimped. Main system still runs Linux though, but it has a 1070 which seems to respond well no matter the OS and your graphs kind of suggest that. It would be interesting to see how things pan out going forward.

[Marc Driftmeyer]

Biggest real takeaway: AMD's Windows drivers *really* suck at OpenGL.

Windows customers don't care about OpenGL. They care about DX11/DX12.

[Vash63]

Wow, those CSGO results are really impressive. I've been playing CSGO on Linux since they updated to 64-bit (fixed my OOM crashing issues), I don't have it installed on Windows anymore so I didn't know it was slower there. As an Nvidia user I haven't seen any of the stuttering or frame pacing issues that others in the thread are talking about, those may be driver related (shader cache?).

[dungeon]

What are you talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54oU4XAWmM8

What should i watch there? Many times whan i pause that video i see how DX9 is fastest there too altough sometimes the opposite happens

But i mostly tought of AMD and these recent ReSX improvments on Windows, which this Michael benchmark does not show You know, Michael uses latest driver for AMD on Windows but does not show these ReSX improvments on Dota, blah, blah

I expected to see these ReSX improvments since Michael mentioned Adrenalin 18.3.3 release and RX 580, of course these boosts are not for GL or VK renderers

Mine first sentence in this thread was:

Many of these test only show best of AMD opensource driver on Linux, against worse case scenario of AMD blob on Windows

And i still think this I clicked on article named like this:

Windows 10 vs. Ubuntu Linux With Radeon / GeForce GPUs On The Latest 2018 Drivers

But got something else, at least click bait works With latest drivers mentioned i expect to see on both sides what really happens with latest drivers and not to test just known worse case AMD blob GL scenario... why these Dota 2 ReSX advertised improvments are not shown i dunno, i can only guess this is how opensource click baiting works

That way user would know that shit is shit and to complain or at least to know about shit right away... unlike this way, things looks better and better in benches, meanwhile in practice and most of the time, user get what we all know he get

People often says here CS:GO for Linux is shitty port, i am not quite sure... maybe it is - maybe it isn't. Anyhow, so to take user compliants seriosly i guess Valve and/or driver devs should take a look right there to improve that case if possible.

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/csgo-osx-linux/issues/1111

Is that really since 64bit client? At least they are watching on this, improving but also breaking it

[sarmad]

Even for that popular Dota 2, DX variants are fastest anyway... both on nVidia or AMD

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comme...ce_comparison/

What are you talking about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54oU4XAWmM8

[dungeon]

Portal obviously is very much playable with any modern driver/GPU should you still be interested in this Valve game...

APU gamers are interested in these titles, when you benchmark Intel & AMD APUs test that.

What happens with Ryzen APU on Linux vs Windows at 1080p should be interesting to see Maybe that mentioned CPU bound CS:GO and general more CPU boundware on lower resolution would draw better picture - particulary with attention to the lows fps as that is what most people hate when they spot it High nor average does not matter, if lows are not good



https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreview...rks-vs-gt-1030

Or Dota and compare to that



APUs should see more coverage i think, since pricing of cards is so high nowdays

[dungeon]

GL is generally better on Linux, we all know that If oppposite happens, that is likely due to the port.

Else is only that some CPU boundware diff might happen, usually with compositor xyz CPU boundware is most common variable, as no one run same CPU and same DE Otherwise we will be like PlayStation, just play it - no diff all along

[theriddick]

For most if not all of them its OpenGL on both OS's , he does mention it within the article just not on the intro.

[dungeon]

Since it's not stated on any of the other tests we simply don't know if Michael used OpenGL or DX on Windows for these.

Since it is not stated, we are free to guess - isn't it? It is GL on WIndows mostly, i guess.

[F.Ultra]

Many of these test only show best of AMD opensource driver on Linux, against worse case scenario of AMD blob on Windows In reality for Windows, situation is different. As most people just runs DX renderers there

Even for that popular Dota 2, DX variants are fastest anyway... both on nVidia or AMD

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comme...ce_comparison/

GL is slowest for both vendors, only it is worse on AMD - but that is not some fresh news

Recently ReSX Project optimized Dota 2 further... but of course that is not for so called alternative renderers

https://gaming.radeon.com/en/introducing-project-resx/

Spot there 95 fps for RX 580 on 4K Dota 2 Ultra That result is like Vega 64 running VK here

The only benchmark where it's stated that OpenGL was used on Windows was Dota 2. Since it's not stated on any of the other tests we simply don't know if Michael used OpenGL or DX on Windows for these.